1971 16' ss

veilside180sx

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Re: 1971 16' ss

Let's ease up on the hijack of V's thread.

V, did you powerwash it? That came out real nice.

Yup, powerwash did wonders. Didn't even take much scrubbing.

No worries, I find the flippy little pool fliers as fun banter.=)
 

garyq

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Re: 1971 16' ss

PUGETSOUND thats my next investment come payday saw a nice one at Princes Auto for $ 40.00 20x12 silver and heavy should work on my 16 footer plus going to make a teepee out of tubing also .. 3881759_20.jpg
 

veilside180sx

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Re: 1971 16' ss

Picked up 2 qts of paint today. Pettit Easypoxy in one qt of White and one qt of Electric Blue.

The existing paint on the boat is in good shape, so I'm going to sand it well and spray it.

I think we decided to use a solid piece of 1 1/2" Redwood for the transom rather than plywood. It will still be sealed with epoxy though.

So list for the next two weeks.

Pick up the following:
3 sheets of 1/8" aluminum tread plate (floor, bow area, console covers)
1 sheet of .065 aluminum (hard top)
1 stick of 1.5" .120 wall 6063 (tuna tower)
Whole bunch of rivits

Do the following:
Apply Coat-It to the inside
Weld up extraneous holes on transom
Weld on a bracket to mount transducer, speedo pick up tube, speed wheel
Sand
Paint
Install said floor, consoles
Finalize bow area design and build
Decide on seats and locations
Install transom

Gonna be a busy couple of weeks, if I do say.=) It will be a whole different boat afterwards, but still share those classic Starcraft lines...
 

Pugetsound

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Re: 1971 16' ss

Any chance the Red Wood could break or crack from stress???? Plywood must be a bit Stronger, I Think?
 

veilside180sx

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Any chance the Red Wood could break or crack from stress???? Plywood must be a bit Stronger, I Think?

I would be super surprised if it was an issue. Quite a few companies have used it for stringers and stuff since it is naturally mildew resistant.

It's not set in stone yet, but we already have it on hand.
 

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Your call, but you might consider the Engine torque on the transom and constant pull. I coulden't tell you one way or the other but a little research before you go to all that work might be usefull. Good luck with the project results will speak well for you efforts.
 

veilside180sx

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Your call, but you might consider the Engine torque on the transom and constant pull. I coulden't tell you one way or the other but a little research before you go to all that work might be usefull. Good luck with the project results will speak well for you efforts.

It's not 100%, I may still opt to use it for accent wood instead along the sides.
 

veilside180sx

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Picked up all of the aluminum tread plate today.

I also picked up Sunbrella fabric to rebuild the deteriorated bimini. The bimini is just to get by until I can build the hard top.
 

veilside180sx

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Anyone built an aluminum transom and filled it with structural foam before? The transom is .625 cubic feet to fill with foam, assuming my dimensions are correct.

I'm sure I'm just trying to reinvent the wheel for no reason, but sometimes it's fun to think outside the box.
 

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I would not unless it had considerable stringers built into it. If the foam filler failed it would probably colapse? IMHO
 

veilside180sx

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I would not unless it had considerable stringers built into it. If the foam filler failed it would probably colapse? IMHO

16 lb foam is almost concrete in strength and is used in fiberglass hulls for transoms. (such as Triton bass boats)

They use a glass outskin filled with the foam. I would merely be substituting aluminum for the glass outerskin.

Using that would make the transom weigh about 10 lbs.
 

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16 lb foam is almost concrete in strength and is used in fiberglass hulls for transoms. (such as Triton bass boats)

They use a glass outskin filled with the foam. I would merely be substituting aluminum for the glass outerskin.

Using that would make the transom weigh about 10 lbs.

Thank you I learned something new today. That makes it a good day.
 

veilside180sx

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Thank you I learned something new today. That makes it a good day.

No worries, we all have our turns to teach and to learn.

Boat flotation is only 2 lbs/ cubic ft, 4 lb for really lightweight structural. 8 lb is the equivilent of a soft wood, and 16 is almost concrete strong.

We use 8 lb for frame rails in car chassis to stiffen them up for racing.
 

ezmobee

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You could probably use that foam. Or how about King StarBoard? It has little lateral strength so you'd definitely need to keep with the aluminum reinforcement idea.
 

veilside180sx

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You could probably use that foam. Or how about King StarBoard? It has little lateral strength so you'd definitely need to keep with the aluminum reinforcement idea.

King Starboard would work as well, but lacks the structural strength of the foam.

My buddy and I have been discussing the various material makeups we can use...of course we still haven't decided.=)

Options:

1. 2 3/4" plywood laminated together (old staple)
2. Aluminum skin with foam sandwich
3. 1 1/2" Solid Redwood
4. Aluminum skin with starboard sandwich.

I think the main motivating factor is that I would like to never do this again.
 

veilside180sx

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Looks like the old staple Option 1 won out today. For cost effectiveness more than anything really.

King Starboard would work as well, but lacks the structural strength of the foam.

My buddy and I have been discussing the various material makeups we can use...of course we still haven't decided.=)

Options:

1. 2 3/4" plywood laminated together (old staple)
2. Aluminum skin with foam sandwich
3. 1 1/2" Solid Redwood
4. Aluminum skin with starboard sandwich.

I think the main motivating factor is that I would like to never do this again.
 

veilside180sx

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TIG welded up a few holes. I intentionally didn't sand them down flat, and just left them looking like rivit heads.

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Test fitting flooring a little bit. Still need to notch around the knee by the transom, and to cut out the front pieces.

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Huron Angler

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Wow that diamond-plate deck looks great:)

I think two pieces of 3/4" ply epoxied and glued with PL is a good way to go. Looking forward to your progress, nice work.
 
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