1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Outboard stand made for the........OUTBOARD to rest while getting the boat ready

so ran out of light as you can tell and did not want to risk anything so the top pieces came off the following day instead.



here comes a lot of pictures keeping the wording down to a min....



bow top piece removed

the support structure there needs to be improved and not sure why they cut the piece form stbd to port in half.. doesn't make sense to me. not to mention that it was not even bolted down in the front or sides.

from the bow looking back, all top parts removed

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Forgot....Splash well

what a mess along with the transom

as soon as the top plate was removed this just fell off

Transom.... definitely in need of help

more below........

 

[zopperman]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

the floor was secured using drywall screws. those have to be cut out and ground down as they just rusted in place.

:facepalm:

Good luck, looks liek you're truckin' through!

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

not looking real good at the brace

Outboard at it's new temporary home

Ok, getting her ready to flip. thought i would leave the transom in to help hold the shape, even as rotted as it is until i get her stripped down and possibly painted, then flip her back over and do the transom......

now she is a turtle

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

now the trailer can be addressed as well, hopefully BEFORE she is put back on, but i doubt it.

different locations that need to have rivets replaced.... What kind and type and place to get them from??? Anyone??

Not sure how to fix some of these seams. Will Gluvit work on it? Should it be put on from the inside or once i replace the rivets that need to be replaced, should i put it on the outside of those as well?? basically i guess how do or where do you use Gluvit???? this part i need HELP and ADVICE PRETTY PLEASE....



I did find a rather long spot that has a bad dent that i will have to reshape from the inside. Will try and get pictures of that tomorrow and other damaged areas.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Oh, us tin Starcraft guys. Get her running and then tear the dang thing apart. Looks like more than the dash needs work.
Someone either found the t bolts or came up with a way to make them. And some where I saw those cleats, can't remember where. Cleats are in the West Marine catalog. page 550. Link to catalog here.

It looks like the PO made a two piece dash. I tried getting mine out but it is impossible with out popping the front cap. So I'm figuring out something else. My PO,s PO cut this nice 4x8 inch hole in the middle of the dash to mount an old car radio. YUCK!

Did you have any leaks during the shakedown?

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

so for tonight i got some stripping of the paint done....

Will still have to do some light cleaning around the rivets and seams and then the rest of the hull. this part was a pain in the ***. the PO used what looks to be latex paint which basically ate up the stripper and really did not let it get to the better paint layers below it so i had to double up on the application...GRRRRRR

there was the old yellow primer zinc chromate, then a layer of red or brown, then an off white/cream color, then the white latex layer. What a pain in the tail section....

hopefully tomorrow i can get some more stripping done......

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

You were still posting pics while I was looking for the cleats. You have made a lot of progress. You have the two piece dash because of what I mentioned in my earlier post. But your top is off so you can do it right. I think you can try to re-buck the rivets which should tighten them up. Gluvit is for the inside. Once you flip her back, water leak test and go from there. You and your Dad went to town!!!!

 

[sprintst]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Man...you are really moving along well. I think I posted the part number of the cleats I used for future reference in my thread.

The teardown was one of the worst parts and your almost through that.

The two piece dash has to go as that's a weak link for sure. I'm thinking of bending some alum up for a custom dash over the winter. We'll so how that goes

Mine had the latex paint too. Some real geniuses out there

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

:facepalm:

Good luck, looks liek you're truckin' through!

yeah, trying to, hopefully this one will be steady progress and faster.......

Oh, us tin Starcraft guys. Get her running and then tear the dang thing apart. Looks like more than the dash needs work.
Someone either found the t bolts or came up with a way to make them. And some where I saw those cleats, can't remember where. Cleats are in the West Marine catalog. page 550. Link to catalog here.

It looks like the PO made a two piece dash. I tried getting mine out but it is impossible with out popping the front cap. So I'm figuring out something else. My PO,s PO cut this nice 4x8 inch hole in the middle of the dash to mount an old car radio. YUCK!

Did you have any leaks during the shakedown?

thanks GA.... how can you want to fix the radio cut out??? just fix it so it takes an 8 track

will have to look at those cleats, but i am also liking the thought of casting some of my own this winter if i can get to it. now that will be fun, then i can cast the corner pieces as well. i have a couple of ford aluminum heads sitting here and that will be perfect to cut up and smelt down....



thanks for stopping in guys...

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

You were still posting pics while I was looking for the cleats. You have made a lot of progress. You have the two piece dash because of what I mentioned in my earlier post. But your top is off so you can do it right. I think you can try to re-buck the rivets which should tighten them up. Gluvit is for the inside. Once you flip her back, water leak test and go from there. You and your Dad went to town!!!!

so inside it will be, hopefully one quart will do the trick. I did do water test for leaks and have about 25 that are leaking about 10 are leaking more from the seam that has the dent along it i believe. I will try and rebuck them and then seal up from the inside once i get all the "bodywork" straightened out at the bad areas. I do have about 6 rivets that were replaced with screws and nuts, but they were not aluminum or stainless, looks like plain machine screws and they are rusted pretty bad.

Can i replace those with stainless bolts and nuts with 5200 at the head and nut instead of the rivets? or can you buy a small amount of rivets to replace them and where can i get them? I do not necessarily want to buy a box of 50 if i only need 6.

thanks for the help

 

[sprintst]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Found it...


I bought some Perko cleats and stainless steel bolts and bolted them on. They are Perko part number 1306DP2CHR. 6 inch open base cleat chrome plated zinc alloy over black plastic. I also ordered this Perko Stealth led bow light. Part number 0615DP0STS. Stainless steel length 2 1/2 width 2 5/8 inches.

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Man...you are really moving along well. I think I posted the part number of the cleats I used for future reference in my thread.

The teardown was one of the worst parts and your almost through that.

The two piece dash has to go as that's a weak link for sure. I'm thinking of bending some alum up for a custom dash over the winter. We'll so how that goes

Mine had the latex paint too. Some real geniuses out there

thanks for the fly by........

i am going to repaint with woodonglass's recipe for rusto, just need to find out how i can color it to my liking. i thought i saw in another post where he said you could add a certain type of pigment or paint to it to get the color you wanted. hopefully he will stop in for a quick instruction and guidance. I want to try and get her painted this weekend. we will see how that goes.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

I think michealP makes the end caps, if you want to save those Ford heads. I have latex paint too , what are people thinking. On the rivets - there are pull rivets with a closed end so 5200 seals between the flange, rivet body and hull, but no open end to leak. Once again I saw them somewhere on the WWW.

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

I think michealP makes the end caps, if you want to save those Ford heads. I have latex paint too , what are people thinking. On the rivets - there are pull rivets with a closed end so 5200 seals between the flange, rivet body and hull, but no open end to leak. Once again I saw them somewhere on the WWW.

thanks for the lead on the end cap, if the smelting fails or i do not get to it then i may have to go that route, but those Ford heads really torqued my jaw so they have it coming to them sooner or later

any idea on the size of the rivets? searching the WWW now for them....

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Found it...


I bought some Perko cleats and stainless steel bolts and bolted them on. They are Perko part number 1306DP2CHR. 6 inch open base cleat chrome plated zinc alloy over black plastic. I also ordered this Perko Stealth led bow light. Part number 0615DP0STS. Stainless steel length 2 1/2 width 2 5/8 inches.

Thanks for the info Spritnst.......

i do like that bow light it kind of goes along with the whole bow nose piece and LED to boot.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Don't know the rivet size - Sorry. But I did find the t-bolt info. bondo said he used stainless carriage bolts and ground down two sides to make his own.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Smokes! You are flying man! Nice work rrumba!

Hey, since we are now in official tear apart and rebuild mode I've added ya to the "Starcraft Rebuilds" thread.

Cheers

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

yeah the flying part was easy on the teardown. this part of stripping the paint, will be a slow, tedious, turtle pace..... sure wish there was an easier way to do it. and one that did not burn when the stripper flips onto your skin. Tried the Citristrip and that only took off the latex paint, next was a can of interlux stripper i had laying around and forgot about, not much joy there either. Got some aircraft stripper for the zone and that seemed to work fairly well as long as you let it sit for awhile, but would not take all the zc off easily, so out came a big brillo type scouring pad and that combined with the stripper on there took off everything fairly easily except the elbow grease needed.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

You don't need T-bolts. I was missing a few and just used regular pan heads. Worked fine and surprisingly didn't spin around in the channel when I tightened them down. I'd rebuck the preset rivets that are leaking and replace the missing ones with stainless bolts and 5200.

Nice work on the tear down.