1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Ace Hardware is where I got my Large Nylocs

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

I'm prolly late to the party, but I have used a block of wood, drilled with a close to perfect 90 degree hole in it as a guide for the bit...

your never late there GT, ya just missed the beverages is all.

Ace Hardware is where I got my Large Nylocs

thanks again WOG, i didn't even think of them. will have to check them out this weekend.


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Ok, so here is what i was trying to use:

i worked ok but then it irritated me, so away it went to the shelf. so then i got bold and free handed it. much faster and i must say i hit all the holes but 2 of the 14 dead on.


made the gap filler and glued them together with 5200. in a day or so it will be get coated with epoxy as well and then either epoxied or jsut 5200 for placement.

this one slid for the pic but its not set in place yet so no worries.

 

[GT1000000]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

your never late there GT, ya just missed the beverages is all.

Thanks RR, Happens every so often, so I've lernt to always keep a stash on ice with me wherever I go...

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

ok fellas a new challenge......

the side panels, plywood covered with vinyl, i was hoping would be useable. after further investigation i have found that it is not possible. i cannot believe that this is how it came from the factory but check it out. questions will follow at the end....

now the real issue is how it is held together at the bottom and the fact that the plywood is 11 ft long

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so the questions:

1. did it come from the factory in a similar fashion? there is a piece of aluminum angle that is screwed down to the bottom and then slides into the side and screwed to the floor.

2. where can i get an 11ft long piece of plywood???????? that is reasonable i might add?

3. if an 11ft long piece of plywood is unreasonable what would be the best method to splice or connect the plywood that would be needed and still have it look good?


the plan was to paint it with porch paint for the side boards, deck, and seat bases and i really do not want to put vinyl back on it but i might if i cannot come up with a way to make this work AND look good.


Thoughts, suggestions and HELP greatly appreaciated...........
t

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Thanks RR, Happens every so often, so I've lernt to always keep a stash on ice with me wherever I go...

must have been a boy scout........be prepared........ or marine......semper fi

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

How thick is it? Appears to be 3/8" to maybe 1/2". If 1/2" then lam to pieces of 1/4" to get your 11'. You can epoxy the seams and never know they're there. If 3/8" then but joint em with a piece of 1/4" on the backside and do the joint the same. Put a coat of thinned epoxy over all of it and then Paint with "The Paint" and she'll look "Purdy"

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

hey WOG it is 1/2" exactly. I think i may just butt joint them toward the stern by the jump seat. That will be the most cost effective means i do believe, then epoxy the seams . just more cost that i wasn't expecting at this point. oh well...

thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Grandad]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

so the questions:

1. did it come from the factory in a similar fashion? there is a piece of aluminum angle that is screwed down to the bottom and then slides into the side and screwed to the floor. t

I think you're missing the original Starcraft aluminum "baseboard" that I see on most models. Have a look in my Holiday reno for pictures of my base, when and if the pictures are available. I would attach for you but with the forum in its current state, I can't. - Grandad

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

ok, so another question.

the 3/4" thick board on the transom between the OB and the transom, what purpose does it serve? I do not want to put any wood there and was thinking of putting a piece of 1/4 aluminum instead and then another piece on the inside of hte transom against the wood to help with the weight and force distribution. Is there a need for an inside piece? will the one 1/4" thick piece do for the exterior or should i double it up? what would be the best product for keeping the 2 pieces together or even attaching it to the transom skin? JB Weld, PL, nothing and just use the bolts?

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

I think you're missing the original Starcraft aluminum "baseboard" that I see on most models. Have a look in my Holiday reno for pictures of my base, when and if the pictures are available. I would attach for you but with the forum in its current state, I can't. - Grandad

Thanks Grandad, going to check it now............

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

If EZ were to stop by he'd say...

"I left em off both my boats. They serve no real purpose other than to rot and cause problems down the road."

I tend to agree with the man but I do like a nice fat transom and extra support is always appreciated in my world, so here was my solution...

1/4" alum, all sealed up with PL, nothing to rot.

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Thanks Grandad, going to check it now............

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guess i should have read and paid attention to all you wrote about them being available if and when the system allows it.... doooh

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

If EZ were to stop by he'd say...

"I left em off both my boats. They serve no real purpose other than to rot and cause problems down the road."

I tend to agree with the man but I do like a nice fat transom and extra support is always appreciated in my world, so here was my solution...

1/4" alum, all sealed up with PL, nothing to rot.

thanks JO, thought i saw something like that in your thread. just was not sure what purpose it served. PL to attach it huh, no way for water to get in and corrode it?????? that i like and will be doing myself. thanks again JO

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Boy, you ask a lot of questions. LOL I miss the smilies!

The side boards are fastened to the floor with what is basically an aluminum "L" secured to the back of the sides and then to the floor. I say basically because mine has a step in the vertical to offset the thickness of the side board for a cleaner look.

The chunk of ply on the transom (which many say is not factory but most pics in the brochures show) is a "beauty" piece to minimize transom scratches during motor mounting, in my opinion. Aluminum is an acceptable substitute and is actually better because it won't rot.
Using an inside transom AL piece is good for spreading the compressive forces when the motor bolts are tightened. In other words - bigger washers. I don't think it can hurt. My $0.02 and hope this helps.

PS - it's OK to ask. Wait 'til I start. Insert appropriate smiley here.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

PL to attach it huh, no way for water to get in and corrode it??????

Yup...

...no where for water to go.

Rock on!

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

I think you're missing the original Starcraft aluminum "baseboard" that I see on most models. Have a look in my Holiday reno for pictures of my base, when and if the pictures are available. I would attach for you but with the forum in its current state, I can't. - Grandad

is this the aluminum angle, if so then i do have that. i was just positioning it in the boat to get an idea of where i might be able to cut it at.

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Yup...

...no where for water to go.

Rock on!

guess not. looks like that will be the plan. Thanks JO. did you clean up around the edges to remove the excess? what cuts the stuff so it has a nice clean edge? or did you leave it cuz i could not see it in the pic so it looked like you had cleaned off the edges.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

did you clean up around the edges to remove the excess?

Yah, when the PL squeezed out after bolt up I just cleaned it all up with mineral spirits.

what cuts the stuff so it has a nice clean edge? or did you leave it cuz i could not see it in the pic so it looked like you had cleaned off the edges.

Yah, that took a while. The piece was cut out of a 3' x 5' section. I used a combination of a grinder with a thin cutting wheel and a jig saw to get the radius on the corners. Then I came back and sanded everything smooth, (rounding the edges too) mostly by hand as the random orbital sander leaves swirls. It was a bit of work but worth it I think.

(Wait a minute, maybe I didn't read your question right and didn't give you the answer you were looking for. Sorry! If not hit me back man)

 

[GT1000000]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

ok fellas a new challenge......
so the questions:


2. where can i get an 11ft long piece of plywood???????? that is reasonable i might add?

3. if an 11ft long piece of plywood is unreasonable what would be the best method to splice or connect the plywood that would be needed and still have it look good?

Answers to Q#2 & 3...

Roll your own, er I mean make your own... I just did...made a 16 foot long by 2 foot wide by 3/4 inch thick sheet to make my stringers...

You can do the same with 2 sheets of 1/4 inch ply...if you want a 1/2 inch thick finished piece...

Heck if you need 22 feet by about two feet wide, you could carry out this lamination procedure with 3 sheets and end up with a 24 foot long by 2 foot wide sheet of plywood...enough for both sides...

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Check with your local salvage yard for aluminum road signs. They are 1/4" thick and usually cheap. A jig saw with a fine tooth metal cutting blade will make short work of cutting out the pad.