Bayliner leaking :(

[Rick Stephens]

before you know it ill be out $500 in parts lol

Boats and cheap are not words that go together...... BOAT = Break Out Another Thou

 

[ilove2fixx]

So i gotta buy a lower shift cable to ? Do i really need to do an alignment as well?

 

[Newbie@boats]

So replace the gimbal bearing and not check the alignment and possibly ruin the new bearing? Yes you need to do the alignment

 

[ilove2fixx]

Ok so i need to purchase an alugnmnet tool and bearing tool and shift cable tool as well correct ?

 

[Rick Stephens]

Nice part is, in comparison to taking it in to a mechanic, probably start at around $1200 just to do bellows and gimbal bearing. Well worth owning the tooling. Alignment is done every time. Otherwise end up off you then pull a motor and replace a coupler and the gimbal bearing.

 

[JoLin]

Yeah i get you guys.. ill compare prices of oem mercury /quicksilver kits and see whos cheaper..

I did replace the impeller and All oils last month..

I think ill go ahead and replace the gimbal bearing since it comes with it.. and how about alignment ? Its like the more i ask the more stuff i end up doing lol.. before you know it ill be out $500 in parts lol

I'm doing a major service on TWO outdrives right now. Finished one today, starting the other tomorrow. Bellows, water hoses, shift cables. All Merc OEM parts- I won't use anything else on this job. $500. in parts per drive sounds about right. You'll also need about $100. worth of special tools (I used Ebay) to do the job:

1/4" flex drive shaft and 5/16 short socket for the hose clamps
Alignment bar
U-Joint bellows retaining ring driver (mine slips onto the alignment bar)
Hinge pin tool
Shift cable socket
Exhaust bellow expansion tool (I lucked out. The P.O. replaced my bellows with exhaust tubes. One less headache)
A can of Merc 'Power Tune' spray- helps A LOT with installing the water hose and U-joint bellow retaining ring. Hats off to Bondo for suggesting that stuff.)
The real, OEM Merc manual you need. Merc's step by step instructions are very good.

Enough hair to tear out when you're fitting that friggin' water hose.
3 hands- one large, 2 very small :joyous:

Good luck!

 

[thumpar]

A tip on the water hose is to boil a pot of water. Take the and put it in for a few minutes without it touching the bottom. That will soften it up a bit. Mine slipped right on with zero fight.

 

[JoLin]

A tip on the water hose is to boil a pot of water. Take the and put it in for a few minutes without it touching the bottom. That will soften it up a bit. Mine slipped right on with zero fight.

That absolutely works. My biggest issue was that, despite what some have said, I simply could not get that 14" hose in place without it kinking. Might have been me, but I tried every conceivable rotation on the hose and just couldn't do it. Wound up cutting about an inch off it in 3 steps. Spent half a day struggling with it.

On the second drive, once all the bellows and stuff is stripped off, I'm going to dry fit the hose before I do anything else. That'll prove it to me one way or the other.

 

[ilove2fixx]

So in which order should i do the hoses in to make it an easier job ? Lol

 

[ilove2fixx]

And is GLM a good brand guys ?

 

[bruceb58]

And is GLM a good brand guys ?

You mean "Good Luck Marine"? No...it isn't. OEM only for the parts you need here.

BTW, going to correct what a previous poster said. You check the alignment to prevent your engine coupler, not the bearing. If the alignment is off, the coupler wears out and you pull your engine to replace the coupler.

I see no need to change the gimbal bearing if you do not have any water in the u-joint bellows. I also wouldn't change the exhaust bellows either unless they are ripped. Even when they get ripped there is nothing bad that happens.

 

[ilove2fixx]

You mean "Good Luck Marine"? No...it isn't. OEM only for the parts you need here.

BTW, going to correct what a previous poster said. You check the alignment to prevent your engine coupler, not the bearing. If the alignment is off, the coupler wears out and you pull your engine to replace the coupler.

I see no need to change the gimbal bearing if you do not have any water in the u-joint bellows. I also wouldn't change the exhaust bellows either unless they are ripped. Even when they get ripped there is nothing bad that happens.

Soi should just buy a alpha 1 gen 2 lower shift cable kit that comes with the bellow for the shift cable and im set? Thats what i really think i just need becuase i looked at all the other boots they look amazing like new.. everything for.that matter really

 

[JoLin]

And is GLM a good brand guys ?

Read Rick Stevens' comment in post #16 :joyous:

As for the order of things, the water hose and U-joint bellows get in the way of each other a little. I did the hose first on the first drive, but placement of the bellows is critical- you have to get that lip seated in the groove properly all the way around. I'm going to try the bellow first on the second drive.

 

[flipbro]

OEM is by no doubt the best. But if it's out of your price range at this time run what ya can afford. I've run Mallory and had good results. Other then the water hose I went OEM. Now I run all OEM and they fit nicer but my financial situation changed and allowed it. Just saying..

 

[ilove2fixx]

I can afford it but i want to be smart about my money, to me its just rubber and twisted little metal wires.. this day and age a huge company lime SEI or GLM or Sieera wont make it unless it meets or exceeds oem specs.. i can understand if its a mechanical part or something major but runner boots and clips ? Really need to pay the $200 difference ? Idk but ill probably end up buying sierra i " heard" its just as good abd a lot cheaper..

So i can just replace the lower shift cable and its bellow if theres no water in the main center bellow And everything else looks good ?

 

[bruceb58]

When your $50 u-joint boot leaks, you can lose a $5K sterndrive. Your choice but it's penny wise pound foolish to use GLM, Mallory or Sierra.

If you want to be smart about your money, shouldn't have bought a boat!

 

[ilove2fixx]

When your $50 u-joint boot leaks, you can lose a $5K sterndrive. Your choice but it's penny wise pound foolish to use GLM, Mallory or Sierra.

If you want to be smart about your money, shouldn't have bought a boat!

Someones in a bad mood.. lol take it easy partner im hear for help and advice not insults.. ive been gettimg mixed reviews and opinions

 

[ilove2fixx]

And why should i replace the lower shift cable? Thats the cable.to my hand lever ?? I thoughy its the top one thats the one going to.the lower unit ? Im confused

 

[bruceb58]

Someones in a bad mood.. lol take it easy partner im hear for help and advice not insults.. ive been gettimg mixed reviews and opinions

Yes sorry you are in a bad mood.

Just so you know most boat mechanics that stand by their repairs, use OEM.

The lower shift cable is not the cable from your console hand lever. Its the one down to your drive that connects to a bracket where the cable to your console lever attaches. Its called the lower cable because it goes to your lower unit.

The reason people are saying to replace it is because you said you are having some issues that indicate that maybe the shift interrupt is engaging which woudl be caused by a bad cable. You need to investigate if that is an issue. Since you are taking things apart to change the boot, it is a small amount of labor to change the cable at the same time. I guess since you are pinching pennies maybe you could run it for awhile longer but I wouldn't.

 

[ilove2fixx]

Yes sorry you are in a bad mood.

Just so you know most boat mechanics that stand by their repairs, use OEM.

The lower shift cable is not the cable from your console hand lever. Its the one down to your drive that connects to a bracket where the cable to your console lever attaches. Its called the lower cable because it goes to your lower unit.

The reason people are saying to replace it is because you said you are having some issues that indicate that maybe the shift interrupt is engaging which woudl be caused by a bad cable. You need to investigate if that is an issue. Since you are taking things apart to change the boot, it is a small amount of labor to change the cable at the same time. I guess since you are pinching pennies maybe you could run it for awhile longer but I wouldn't.

Thing is it ran fine beforw i took it to the lake and it ran fine today ? A little rouhg but it.ran on only 2 cranks.. i gave a little gas and it didnt bog or cut off.. so idk it may not be that shift cable i think its fuel related since the fuel sat for many months and i added seafoam to the tank ?