can of worms?

[jrttoday]

sometimes... I think my "thinking privileges" should be revoked!! because this was a real backbreaker!!! :lol: However, it did save a lot of work...... Blocked the hull off of bunks and raised it as far as I felt safe on stands.
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Top of skin is knee high, 20ish inches. Puddling in a multi- layer layup was minimized to almost nonexistent. We didn't have to fight the mat falling back over, simply presseing with gloved hands made resin ooze through the 24 and almost wet out the csm completely. The gunwales had enough incline to need little attention as well. Made it easier on me to pre-cut pieces also, hands free to measure
The only drawback is that I'm mostly horizontal today :facepalm: but nothing a BC won't/hasn't taken care of.......:lol: Gotta check on Glass Guy, he spent more time in there than I - corners and stuff[/URL]

 

[Woodonglass]

Man oh Man...I've only got one word for your glassin'... it comes in the form of a Pic...

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[jrttoday]

Thanks for the compliment, wish I could claim it all as my doing. Actually, I'm photoshopping from another forum :lol: NOT!! But that's me..... Mr Overkill... If I've made a mistake, and did from what I intended; Mr S Phelps had suggested 45* on the 24 and planned on doing that. With so much on my two brain cells, forgot when I started cutting. OOOPS!! It should be plenty strong as is.

I used a fine tooth plywood blade on the gusset - seemed to clog and burn. Would turning a regular blade backwards work better for trimming the top of skins?

 

[Woodonglass]

Never, I repeat, NEVER run a saw blade backwards. No Matter what anyone tells you!!! There's absolutely no reason for it and no benefit!!!

Try using one of these in your Jig saw.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-4...aw-Blade-HCS-T-Shank-5-Pack-DW3755H/202550683
If you have a VS Jig saw set it on LOW speed. It'll cut the glass much better and won't melt the resin causing the blade to clog!!!

 

[sphelps]

If your just cutting the top of the transom off I would just use the angle grinder with the thin metal cutting blade . Makes a much nicer cut and it won't shake everything around ... JMHO ..

 

[Woodonglass]

This ^^^ works well too!!!

 

[jrttoday]

thanks for the input guys! Often limited by tooling and an extra set of hands, had planned on using circular saw to set the pitch to get an exact even cut on both.
Can use the saw to transfer the mark and cut with grinder.
This project is definitely not PRESTO! and it's done!! :lol:

OK, I admit what I was thinking was stupid; had I done it, really stupid!! Really need a square cut on top - not angled. The motor mounts on a trim unit and has no clamps going over, but.... am glassing four inches up to the deck on sides

 

[jrttoday]

took the fuel tank out, going to raise starboard side 5" for low fuel pickup. Rearward slope begins just forward of tank; probably leave slope to where center cut in deck is and flatten out to transom
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unbelievable how much the skin tightened up from just tabbing inside the gusset!!! I still haven't learned that I shouldn't be glassing after dark lol - too late to stop before realizing how late it was




Inner skin is the right height but.......... Not being familiar with fiberglass, I fit it like it was steel - and..... lol working around the clamps and not having anything extra to run off on means I need to add some all the way across in order to have good meat.

edit PS: orange specks are reflection from sodium light over garage

 

[jrttoday]

SOP with my boat is usually to decide on an objective, do "some" lol research, and do whatever it takes to accomplish said objective. I don't plan all details because they can turn into reasons not to :lol: Prefer to be challenged and overcome.

The weather says I have a few days before I can resume any fiberglass. Perfect, I need to figure out a few things and make others
1) need three drain tubes for between stringers and transom; with sides to contain Seacast - then cap over
2) have 2 sheets of Styrofoam 2x24x48" and enough broken pieces to make half a sheet. I want to add this, boxed off somehow and sealed. Floatation foam I still have in pieces and can go back between stringers.
3) plan on raising the sump/bilge pocket 1" and the floor 1" also - that's almost enough for Styrofoam, but two is too much.... need a longer tube anyway

I'm just thinking outloud and it helps to write

I want to put the styrofoam against the transom, but have to put t/t pump somewhere. This compartment is usually empty and has primarily been used camping, and rarely at that.
4) can go back with 1/4" ply instead, but thinking not
5) fuel tank will be supported with 1/2" across the bottom (fuel tanks will break)
6) battery box relocated to port
7) what else?

 

[jrttoday]

is distortion normal with fiberglass? I've noticed when I added the pad for gusset on the csm base for inner skin that it puckered - even though I had it clamped down tight. And when I tabbed the inside of gusset, the sides pulled in some.
Not mixing hot, usually have 20ish, more like 30 minutes working time

 

[sphelps]

Yeah it may distort a little while curing .... Usually not a problem ..

 

[jrttoday]

there's a saying that goes "if I am not the problem, there is no solution"
One of your famous spacers in the gusset should take care of it; will probably go ahead and cap it up to that point. Can hardly wait until tomorrow - decent day - fish fry today!!! :hungry: Tired of rearranging the garage to push everything in and out every time it rains; past ready to be done.........

 

[jrttoday]

any objections before I lock it down and paint?
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lost maybe 3 gallons - still holds 12+ and I have never needed much more than six. This may or may not buy much; I'm always conscious of fuel remaining, but have been known to push the envelope. No more trouble than it was, probably worth the effort.

After realizing that I was too tired to trim csm off the gusset first - before resin - I figured I'd rest a few days lol.

 

[jrttoday]

it's called a Garboard drain that I'll use for below deck. Guess I'm looking at five holes in the transom; not counting motor moun. One for the sump (above deck), below deck, livewell fill and drain, then the splashwell.
Livewell drain is currently 1.25 od PVC with a valve tucked away beside passenger seat and uses bilge pump to dump overboard. Not anymore.... pause..... helps me to write...another blinding flash of the obvious! lol rather than another hole in transom, another pump dummy!! She rides better and handles better with a half full livewell, but loading on trailer... not so...
Anyone that can follow my thinking is smarter than me, cos I can't :facepalm:

If I use a Garboard plug, I'll have to use a brass nipple; which has no flange for the inside. 5200? What's the best way to go about that?
Think I've found some low mileage floatation foam, just waiting for him to call me back. And then get the deck back in after making a straight cut across.

 

[sphelps]

I've never installed a garboard style plug ... 5200 seals up just about anything above or below water line ..

 

[jrttoday]

I've never just about this whole project!! not quite true, but might as well be. I have a lot of confidence with 5200 in everything but taking it back apart :lol: This is a Garboard fitting for those that don't know, I didn't
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Going this route because it's below deck and sealed - not wanting another plug that might accidentally come out. I fish in the thick of things - often hanging on stumps, crossing logs, etc
I can deal with losing one above deck; upgraded last year to a 1200 gph pump and carry extra plugs.
Looking like another washout for a few days... hoping to be ready, better be, when it clears[/URL]

 

[jrttoday]

thinkin too much, or not enough....?? lol Down days are good!!! Decided to leave tank support out and carry something to prop the tank up when she gets low. That way I'll at least get a warning, have no gauge and don't like relying on a fuel gauge. Will have to leave back seat support at new angle with a removable shim to secure tank, no problem.
I never run a full tank, but.... this way have some reserve.

back to transom topic, I'm wanting to install Garboard before the pour; sealing it w/5200 to outer skin. Will 5200 cause any problem with pouring the Seacast?
And installing livewell fill tube, any suggestions? I want a hard pipe through transom for PVC valve to thread on, suggestions on how? And no jokes on how many iboats members does it take to screw in a light bulb!!! lol

 

[Woodonglass]

I'm wanting to install Garboard before the pour; sealing it w/5200 to outer skin. Will 5200 cause any problem with pouring the Seacast? NO
And installing livewell fill tube, any suggestions? I want a hard pipe through transom for PVC valve to thread on, suggestions on how?

I'd use 1" schedule 40 PVC. Drill a 1 1/2" hole in the transom. Refill it with PB. Then drill a 1" hole and 5200 the threaded pipe in the hole.

And no jokes on how many iboats members does it take to screw in a light bulb!!! 38lol

See above

 

[jrttoday]

I'd say you would have to add one more to any number of members - a moderator to referee the event!!! :tennis: And thanks for the suggestion!!!!! Sounds like the solution I was looking for, makes good sense....:rockon:

Picked up a gallon of Herculiner today :facepalm: going to do the entire deck, including under the livewell - which means removal and reglassing. Fun times ahead Sealing the deck will not change plan for below deck drain

 

[jrttoday]

after a two day round trip road trip to Houston, two days of rest were required :lol: maybe I can get back on track today? But I did make a short trip yesterday to pick up the Garboard fitting, 5200, another gallon of glass resin and acetone, some more mat and csm, paint colorant etc etc....

Have maybe a gallon left of the five, so that makes 8 gallons bought for this project; and have used six. None waisted, a little runoff here or there and no over mixing thus far. That's my 3rd gallon of acetone, still have some in the 2nd - which brings me to this. I never put a total $ amount on this project - it had to be an open ended ticket.

After many years of working, this was pointed out to me -- "whenever I see something I don't understand, it's usually about money". Some genius CPA has pencil whipped this thing to death and figured out that's how things need be done. Just saying, if some don't understand my methodology, there's a reason behind all of it. And it isn't always about money, though often it is; sometimes it's health, others not knowing, and still others my skill set and lack of assistance. Plus the weather keeps jerking me around :lol:
Like said earlier, damn the torpedoes!!
"A man's got to know his limitations" - Clint Eastwood