can of worms?

[jrttoday]

more of the same.... Guessing we are all familiar with this death trap.... hit the trim and it all fell apart. Just needed a measurement




everyone's busy, can't get a hand, as usual. Not even going to tack it while it's attached to the unit, but because of close tolerances, need to see where it works best. As straight as possible in line with trim rods is best, but due materials and what I "can" make (and have made) might not allow for that.

A missed communication or what, makes no difference now ? I take full responsibility. I had only looked at the tilt cylinder pin and said its 5/8?s. Marked its position on the inside and transferred the mark best as I could.

Made all of the preparations to drill and thought to measure the pin against the bit; pin was slightly larger - and longer than I remembered. Decided on the machine shop again, but first welded pieces to thicken those brackets with additional weld to hard surface the holes; and then ?hurriedly? center punched the hole again.

Am certain I told him to find the center of the radius marked inside and transfer that for the hole instead of using punched mark. Other than that, he did another great job; including threaded grease fitting passages for the steering tube holes (which I was going to do but since he had it.....)

The pin fits real tight; fairly easy to get the pin started, but hammer in. It all works well, but will have to bend a hydraulic tube slightly to keep it from rubbing on the factory bracket for reservoir, with full trim only.

New bushings and shims, plus two carb kits arrived today - maybe soon!!

 

[sphelps]

Looking forward to seeing this monster bracket in action !

 

[StarTed]

Good work

Have you added more flotation?

 

[jrttoday]

Good work

Have you added more flotation?

come on now..... We all know that floatation foam only makes it easier to retrieve your boat off the bottom :facepalm:

But the added weight? Haven't weighed the thing lately, guessing a tad less than 25lbs - additional metal for trim, another 7 to 10? Add weight of t/t unit, 15 or 20??? Jack plate is lighter than the first plate I made way back and weighed 10lbs exactly.
Gutting the inside hardware of stock swivel bracket and other mounting hardware takes away 10ish.

CMC PT-130 weighs 45lbs - even if I am at 60lbs total weight (which I don't think), wouldn't be much difference. The real issue is that I've gone from 5" offset to 10" - pushing 252lbs of motor further back on 15 feet of boat with a five foot beam.

all that said is that we won't know until it gets wet!!! :lol:

 

[jrttoday]

was wondering when my luck would run out...... and Sunday, the trim motor quit!! The guy I bought the t/t from had been emphatic about "how new that motor was"..... I haven't used it but maybe a dozen times with no load - P O'd at first, but at least it quit in the driveway and before everything else is in the way!!!!!!!!

BUT THEN!! I made my first real error on Tuesday - didn't realize that I was leaving "one bolt" out while trying to fit that block for the trim cylinder landing. Which created the illusion that I could get a few more degrees of negative trim. I'm dealing with thresholds pushing things to the limit; always wondering IF "this is enough or too much???"

Spent two days grinding, sanding (equals planing by hand 7.5 long 4.5 wide, 0" to 9/32" deep tapered). Only to realize that I had left a bolt out :facepalm: :lol: and spend another half day welding that back and facing it off. Grinding aluminum is slow, real slow. But grinding aluminum weld is not as bad because weld is harder material.
And I'm going to look at this as "maybe it needs to be harder right there" - can't hurt.
Therefore, my luck hasn't changed...... lol

 

[jrttoday]

progress is slow, but I swear this is more work than it looks like....




not shown but welded today, bottom corners for landings where the trim pin used to go. Will touch up a few spots when I get closer to done - mostly grinding scars from being tacked down.

 

[jrttoday]

getting down to the wire and I've stalled out :facepalm: Nah, just took a few days off to fish with a buddy - Speckled Trout and a Bass that must have been lost!!! lol



we caught plenty of others (and on other days) but that's all I kept for just me... One of 'em is 18"; Bass is legal too, but wasn't going to release a SERIOUSLY brackish water BASS!!! - practically salt.



that WAS a 16lb spool; I'd say I've done some welding.... Gas is hanging just above zero too; 150cf tank - I could and was cheating with the smaller wire using lower gas flow. Since using the 3/64" wire, no can do - 35 CFH period.

I really only have one small weld left to make; probably a foot total - it'll be close.

 

[sphelps]

Looks like dinner to me !

 

[StarTed]

Nice break from the metal.

 

[jrttoday]

I just got accused (again!! lol) of over thinking :lol: but once it's done, it's done - and I don't have much to go by. Negative trim.... maybe just enough? I can do things to increase it, but..... lol



She isn't quite level there, but we can tell it won't be much. Having to take everything off and put back on just to make measurements (or check) kills a lot of time. After welding the two together, I was out of gas and wire; and something moved just enough to make me cut it back loose :grumpy:
Bought a pound of .035 and it doesn't weld the same; immediately had problems with backlash etc, but I'm using .045 knurled rollers for carbon steel. Was able to dial it out and "make" it weld LOL.

BUT!! am hoping this my last issue, securing the bottom of pivot tube to the "thing". Sorry about the blurry picture, that clamp normally goes from the tube to the motor - and will still have one. This is an extra one off the 100 horse; it'll be tight with two of them there (one forwards fastened some way to the thing and one back to the motor).
OR!! I could just ignore it saying two bolts in the top are enough, but I don't think so..... There may be other solutions, and I've thought of many, but none of them are working out....




PS: ate those fish for FIVE DAYS!! lol

 

[jrttoday]

still wet, maybe a Monday install? Glass Guy shot this over a pot of coffee cos I can't even operate a spray can!!



paper stuffed in holes, tape on the trim pedestals and grease fittings, and those old bushings for masking... old trim motor too. JS...
Not trying to market this thing, really don't care much about appearance - functionality is all that matters.

 

[Baylinerchuck]

You say appearance don't matter, but it doesn't look too shabby where I am sitting.

 

[jrttoday]

Monday turned into Tuesday, then Wednesday, and now it's "Happy Thanksgiving!!" everyone!!!
Maybe everything looks great the further away you are lol; but there were a couple of spots. Told him repeatedly "NOT to paint the back" - won't ever be seen; ran low on paint and the sides of the jack plate were light on paint as well.

Barely had enough to touch up all four spots; I guess it's all those years he painted and glassed that causes him to be a bit aloof :lol: He's a great guy anyway!!
Painting and glass top the list of things I don't do so well.... I might like this all to look as good as it can, but not going to kill myself trying to make it look what it's not.
Going to leave "good looks" to you really skilled people here on Iboats.

But this process continues with more nitpicking things that really aren't nitpicking. I'm having to "make" shims that are slightly thicker than what they sent. I could get more shims at $10 a piece, but where's the fun in that? lol

 

[jrttoday]

there we go, the measurements I made were correct




just been awhile and forgot. Once I put the tube in.... lip on the bushing, one SS shim each side, and a flat nylon washer/bushing (factory) against the motor brackets.
can I mount it tomorrow? lol

 

[jrttoday]

INJURIES on/during this project have been next to none; except for the occasional smoked fingertip from grabbing a piece after grinding. And the two or three times the grinding wheel nicked some skin!! Didn't really bleed, but a band-aid was required or "optional" LOL.

BUT!! here I am at the near end and Monday (two weeks ago), helped my fishing buddy and another guy load a bush hog on a trailer. At least one of my discs has expanded and not contracted yet - making it difficult to get around.

It's some (a lot) better today, but...... might have to wait on help to hang the motor?? Patience is running low LOL

 

[oldrem]

Like I keep telling my younger friends - getting old sucks. Hope you feel better soon

 

[chevymaher]

Like I keep telling my younger friends - getting old sucks. Hope you feel better soon

My buddy who is 7 years older then me has this saying. Getting old isn't for sissies but it sure beats the alternative.

 

[jrttoday]

not getting older!! am aging... lol My help never arrived and it took all day (and a few BC Powders) for just this



Gutted old trim cylinders and hardware; had to remove swivel bracket to take out "one cotter pin"
knew that I needed to, but going to replace those 12" bolts with 10" and 10.5".
and THEN!!! the manual release valve is leaking causing problems errrrrrrrr, oh well. Fishing tomorrow, back on this in a day or few....

Preliminary check on steering linkage says this will work out much better than the old CMC setup I had. Or was that the old Johnson set up? Steering tube was not thru-brackets.
JS... boton of motor is Tohatsu charcoal gray; which just about matches 1970 Johnson paint. Cowling is Behr Frog Green, same as my deck lids and floor ='s no glare.

 

[chevymaher]

You got it looking like something now. Good Job.

 

[Baylinerchuck]

Wow, that thing is hanging off the end of the boat a mile.....can't wait to hear how it works!