Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebuild

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

After that, it was onward to the floor. Here's the first part out. At least the foam under here was easy to pull and came out in big chunks

Once everything else was gone, pulling the floor was a cakewalk. And here I am inspecting something it would appear.

I'd say the floor was junk...what do ya think? [Notice how the tools keep moving farther and farther forward, and don't removed 'til there is no floor left. ]

Ick.

Annnnnd the floor is out. Really went much quicker than I thought it would. And again, you can see me fighting with more foam, trying to get all of it out.

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

At the end of the day, I ended up with an empty boat...

...a floor on the floor...

...waaay too many bags of foam...

...and a tired, but happy Supervisor.

So not too bad for a days work.

And again with the questions...an no, I won't stop, probably not even after I have this project done.

1. How do I go about cleaning bare aluminum that's been bare since the boat was built. The bottom of the boat never had paint on it, but I'm going to paint it here in a somewhat short order. I know I need the zinc cromate primer, just need to know how to properly clean the aluminum so the primer and paint will stick properly.

2. The more I read about painting the more I'm thinking I'll just pull the vinyl stickers off and scuff the old paint, it's not really flaking or chipping...I want as perfect of a finish as possible, which is why originally I was going to full strip it, but the more I read...I may not do that. question is, can I get a "professional" [and I use that term loosely] finish by only scuffing and painting? and do I need any kind of primer if I go that route?

3. And something I have to ask now, even though I'm still a ways away from getting to this, and this is for all you Tinny guys out there....How in the world did you know where to drill the holes for the rivets when putting the floor back in??? I keep trying to think of ways to mark the floor to know where to drill, but I can't come up with anything...suggestions?

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Ooooo...one other thing...

Is the best way to check for loose rivets to just go through and touch them all? If they are loose will it be noticeable?

THANKS!

 

[Andy in NY]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Ooooo...one other thing...

Is the best way to check for loose rivets to just go through and touch them all? If they are loose will it be noticeable?

THANKS!

fill the hull with water and see where it comes out.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

1. I don't know. Scotch brite pads?

2. If your existing paint is in good condition (which it appears to be) and not flaking or peeling, absolutely just scuff it and paint over it. That's what I did on mine and rolled Easypoxy and I think it looks pretty darn good. By the way, I found etching primer at Pep-Boys and it wasn't hella-expensive.

3. You don't. Drill new holes.

You should be very thankful your under-deck foam was as loosely adhered as it was!! That could have been much worse to deal with. Nice work on the demo.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

1. How do I go about cleaning bare aluminum that's been bare since the boat was built.

Powerwashing has worked well for folks, I scrubbed it with a brush and 1:1 mix of vinegar and water.

2. Can I get a "professional" [and I use that term loosely] finish by only scuffing and painting?

I think Ezmobee's paint job is a good testament to the fact that this will work.

3. How in the world did you know where to drill the holes for the rivets when putting the floor back in??? I keep trying to think of ways to mark the floor to know where to drill, but I can't come up with anything...suggestions?

Lay the deck down one section at a time. Use a chalk line to follow the stringers and "snap" it to leave a line where the stringers are. Same goes for the ribs. This is what I plan on doing. As mentioned, not easy to hit the same holes, so drill new ones or use self-tapping screws.

Is the best way to check for loose rivets to just go through and touch them all? If they are loose will it be noticeable?

Sometimes if a rivet is loose enough you can tell by tapping it. If there is a clicking sound then it's loose. If you do fill it with water make sure not to get carried away, these boats are designed to keep water out, not in and too much weight will cause seams and rivets to fail(counterproductive).

Another option is to leave the boat winched to the trailer and back it in a launch ramp to simulate the boat being loaded down. This will reveal any leaking rivets as well.

Looking good, keep it up!

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

So pressure wash, scrub with water/vinegar and let it dry...then just start spraying primer?

And Thanks Huron! I'm still in the beginning stages, but I sure hope it comes out as good as it looks in my head!

 

[JMack627]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

"3. Is there a place I can get 3M's 5200[?] locally? Or is that something needs to come offline as well?"

To answer that question, go to Ace Hardware. They carry the nice small tubes for about $7-$8. Unlike Home Depot/ Lowes who only carry the giant caulking gun sized tubes .

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

My home depot has the little tubes but not the big ones

 

[bananaboater]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

"3. Is there a place I can get 3M's 5200[?] locally? Or is that something needs to come offline as well?"

To answer that question, go to Ace Hardware. They carry the nice small tubes for about $7-$8. Unlike Home Depot/ Lowes who only carry the giant caulking gun sized tubes .

Not in my Ace. Had to special order and the only thing listed in their computer was 3M 4000 which I bought for $9 per. Got 2 tubes in case but not even close to using the first one and I am done sealing the stern. But might get another boat so am keeping it.

 

[JMack627]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

That's odd both Aces in my town had the 3m 5200. The only thing was one carried the quick dry and the other didn't which said it had to cure for 7 days lol. The worst thing is, you get 48 hours to use the whole tube before it "goes bad" so make sure EVERYTHING is ready before you buy and open the 5200 or you will just throw away $8 and have to buy another tuber for 1 job.

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

WE ARE GLUVITED!!!

Been doing a fair amount of work, but at the point I'm at, doing a lot of work doesn't show. The boat still mostly looks the same.

And we're off...


Bow Rivets and seams cleaned...This was something I thought could get done in a few hours...um...no. It took the entire day to get everything as clean as I felt necessary.

And here's the big gorilla himself sitting on his arse. At least it looks like I'm working.

After the 17 hours of grinding, it's time to wash the boat...Road Trip!!!

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Apparently I don't know how to work the Car wash and have to read instructions.

Washing...

More Washing....

And draining....

Then after it dried....it's time for GLUVIT!!!! The sticky, sloppy milky brown mixture that will hopefully take care of any leaks.

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Ya know...when you're 6'6", round about 250, it's hard to cram your fat *** into the bow of a very small boat, but here's me folding myself up and working on the bow

Just more Gluviting...

Fully Gluvited

Close up of the Stuff...

On the can it says that you have 90 min Pot life, well both coats took me close to 2 hours. So at the end of it's pot life it's starts to get a little thicker and you start to care less about how it's going on, and more about getting it used up...that explains me going bananas near the transom.

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Now comes the part where I'll probably get chastised for a little bit...but I'm glad I did it, because it revealed an issue that I might not have caught if I wouldn't have done it. And most of the paint came off REALLY easy, only a very small part of it fought me when coming off. Makes me wonder how well a new finish would have held up using the old paint for a base...

Enough of my yammering...

Most of the paint gone, only the stubborn spots and rivet areas left. [I didn't want to find out if Gluvit and paint stripper reacted negatively with each other. ]

One side fully stripped, woohooo!

Little bit closer shot of the fully stripped side

And a fully stripped transom...this was the main area of stubborn paint.

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Again though, I'm glad I did it, as this is what I found on the transom...

Inside...

...and outside

I started another thread about how to fix that properly, so if you have advice, you can leaving here...or there... http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=392377

I don't think I have too many questions right now...more of just a 'will this work'

I'm planning on finishing the stripping today, and then working on stripping the inside, then priming.
I'm planning on using soap and water with a scrubbing pad or maybe a scotch bright pad to get the major oxidation off the bottom of the boat that was never painted, then rinsing. Then going after it with the 50/50 water vinegar mix, letting it dry, and spraying...Would this be the right way to go about doing it?

Think that's about it for now. If I think of anything else...you guys'll be the first to know.

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Welp, the transom's fixed...and I'm $170 bucks poorer. O well, it had to be done.

Seems people don't like my yappin', so I'll get right down to the pics.

Took lots of little cuts to make up the best cardboard template I could. It was pretty ghetto, but it got the job done.

I kinda forgot to take a pic of the aluminum sheet by itself, so I'll just have to explain it. I went to a few different places in town, looking for the right size sheet and the ability to make what I needed. Preferably quick and fairly cheap.

Finally found a place in Jordan, MN, just down the road from where I live in Shakopee. Not only were they really reasonable on price [I thought] they were able to slice and dice a sheet to match my crude template right then and there. Ok so maybe it took an hour, but that's nothing. Came out looking great, although, they kinda botched the splashwell drains. O well. Total for a slab of 14ga Aluminum cut to size and done up nice and quick like...$50. I can live with that.

Then came time to weld it on. Now, first off, I'm no welder, so I CERTAINLY would not be able to weld aluminum, so again, I get to pay someone to do it. Yippee.

Here's the finished product.

And a close up...

This is where it hurt. $120 bucks to weld it all up. But I can't complain, he did an excellent job.

Of course...he kinda smoked some of my Gluvit while welding...

I think I should still be ok though. I had a LOT of Gluvit near the transom, as you can see in the earlier pics.

 

[Racingman24]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Today, however, was a fairly leisurely day, didn't do a whole lot. I did get bored this evening and started on the interior of the boat. Not much, but a little.

Should be done with the interior tomorrow. And hopefully, I can be washing the underside on tues. Wooohoo, then PAINT!!!!

 

[sprintst]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Looks like the welder did a good job. 120 would be a great deal around here.

You're well on your way. Stripping the old paint is the biggest pain so you've got nice clean work from here out.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Here we go, diving in, hope there's water in the pool... Just Another Tinny Rebui

Good work was definitely done on that repair. Make sure you use etching primer before painting.