Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

[magnumdeke]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Went nuts with table saw, got a pretty good idea of what she's gonna look and feel like inside,


SWMBO still a little unsure on the size of the seat boxes, to big for her tastes, I think when she starts filling the boat that the storage will be appreciated.
Moved on to the back bench and came up with this.......


Looks pretty good i think, should fish ok too, gonna have to kneel on the bench to net though.
Another perspective, getting full quick like!


On another note, ordered up some HDPE cut offs from Alro plastics,(1/2" and 3/4") going to cover lower transom exterior so i can screw whatever I want to it and not penetrate the hull, also gonna use some of it for drawer slides and various uses, Considerably cheaper than Starboard,

Have a good night all, no progress tomorrow other than getting the cap on trailer to take to work!

 

[magnumdeke]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Well that sux about the limber holes, MD. I guess no way to ream the holes, is there?

Maybe if I had 6' long arms, I guess it is what it is, as long as i don't have a hull breach and funnel all surface water to the back I will be all right, just nullifies some work i did. Really need that void filled with foam to get to the magic number necessary to float it.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Got any small neighborhood kids you don't like? :lol: That foam fills voids alright, even when you don't want all of them filled.

 

[dozerII]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Bloody foam, you can't get it to go where you want and it goes on it's own where you don't want it. Layouts looking good, aint it surprizing how fast you can fill up a wide open space.

 

[magnumdeke]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Bloody foam, you can't get it to go where you want and it goes on it's own where you don't want it. Layouts looking good, aint it surprizing how fast you can fill up a wide open space.

Getting small quickly, if this were just for me she would be wide open but gotta keep the admiral happy! I will still have way more room than I do in my Browning so all is good!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

For my Islander I basically sealed up the whole cockpit area like a bath tub. Basically, all water that falls on the deck will make it's way to the stern/bilge. Kinda sorta look like you are headed that direction too.

If everything is draining towards that bilge, I wouldn't sweat it too much. Yah, might as well just fill the whole deal with foamage eh (Did I just agree to a fully foamed, non draining, alum hull? Out loud?):facepalm:

 

[bob johnson]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

For my Islander I basically sealed up the whole cockpit area like a bath tub. Basically, all water that falls on the deck will make it's way to the stern/bilge. Kinda sorta look like you are headed that direction too.

If everything is draining towards that bilge, I wouldn't sweat it too much. Yah, might as well just fill the whole deal with foamage eh (Did I just agree to a fully foamed, non draining, alum hull? Out loud?):facepalm:

you really need that water to drain!!!! having water sit up against the foam is what causes us to do all these rebuilds many times. on my lowe roughneck... I pilled the last 6 feet of floor to do work and I could see that the weep holes under the ribs in the middle of the hull were pretty small, misc debris like sticks twigs and leaves could easily clog them... I drill holes longitudinally so more water could drain!! and on my Islander I am prying up that opening at every rib!!!! almost doubling the gap for water to flow . Ill do that AND ill try and make sure water that enters the boat runs to the stern on top of the floor.... that's one reason ill so a semi smooth floor, maybe with a little grit for traction only... and seal the floor -sides bob

 

[magnumdeke]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

hopefully I have no way for water to get in other than from the top side and I plan on controlling that, as in funneling it to the back and out. I am bummed my plan failed for sure but now it is on to plan b,

 

[jasoutside]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

I am bummed my plan failed for sure but now it is on to plan b,

Roll with it man, you'll be all good:joyous:

 

[Grandad]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

hopefully I have no way for water to get in other than from the top side and I plan on controlling that, as in funneling it to the back and out. I am bummed my plan failed for sure but now it is on to plan b,

Hey Mag, I'd spend whatever effort necessary to make plan A work. You said you have an inspection camera. Why not use it to help guide you to probe through those limber holes with a long rod or flat bar? I envision plan B having a couple of gallons of bilge water (the amount left when your bilge pump reaches its bottom limit) sloshing around, including forward when you drop from cruising speed. Yes, you can seal the decking to prevent water entering from top down, but when it eventually gets to the bilge, it's gonna slosh right back to where you didn't want it. Not opening the limber holes will make you crazy later wondering what's happening to all that hard work you've put into this hole in the water. - Grandad

 

[magnumdeke]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Still thinking on the plan b Grandad, might have something for that splash back you are referring to, kinda like sealing in my bilge drain area.More on that later.
Ordered some more epoxy last week should be here Monday, so I need some wood ready for it. today I did a side job that will pay for the paint supplies needed to finish the top.
QUESTION, Will bondo work for top related hole filling, my cap is swiss cheese, if I went marine tex it would cost an arm and a leg. I was thinking bondo would work, not going to be constantly exposed to water, autos repaired with it see rain and snow at higher speeds than i will be going. What ya think?

Back to the wood thing, did some test fitting and dreaming this afternoon, got some wood cut too, I do suck as a finish carpenter but the vision that has been in my noggin is starting to take shape!

Seat box may be a little high, almost need the windshield to truly see it, definitely sittin up high.

Everything fit nice with the cap so far, got the side panels cut today, rear bench is going to work out sweet,
Some pics


Got a void to fill in the upper right of the bench, back board is out to fit the side pieces
Going to fill in behind the seat box to the bottom edge of gunnel also so stuff doesn't fall in the gap

Little bit of progress anyways.

 

[magnumdeke]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Started dreaming about flooring, Nautolex looks good to me, should control water nicely thinking one of these two


How good is this stuff at going around corners and wrapping pieces with it?
What are my adhesive choices?
thinking a little carpet in the mix too, keep the Admiral happy, snap in maybe? otherwise i will glue over the Nautolex in spots maybe? Want Nautolex as my base layer to seal the deck off,
Crazy thinking of flooring
Guess I need the ins and outs of this stuff, planning ahead again!

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Hey MD - JB Weld aluminum filler should take care of the swiss cheese. Bondo too. Flip a coin!

The wood work is coming along real nice. I think your are wrongly knocking your skills. :eagerness: on the side job paying for supplies.

We have enough Nautalex users to answer those ??? for you.

 

[Grandad]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Started dreaming about flooring, Nautolex looks good to me, should control water nicely thinking one of these two
How good is this stuff at going around corners and wrapping pieces with it?
What are my adhesive choices?

I used Nautolex and was happy with the way it installed. It doesn't stretch, so you can't do any compound curves with it. It will wrap around stuff easily, but you will have to cut out relief chunks on the corners as you wrap.
I tried to buy Nautolex 88 adhesive, but couldn't find it locally here in Canuckistan. I used a Ducan product available from HD. It seemed to work well. I installed from a centreline, starting with starboard, then did port side. Details in the resto thread in my signature. Working with a "contact" type of cement means you get only one shot at putting it down without wrinkles. Extra hands are definitely needed. - Grandad

 

[magnumdeke]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

I need any tipsI can get on it guys, I want to do the floor and fold it up on the foam on the sides sand then wrap my side panels install them with a bead of caulk at the floor joint and then install seat boxes. basically use the floor piece as a funnel for the water to get it to the back. Hopefully won't need to replace it for a lpong time if the stuff holds up good!

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

I think Defender has the best price on Nautolex.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

You might have to add a transition piece at the floor/side panel junction so the vinyl can roll from the floor up the panel. It wouldn't need to be big. Just to reduce the angle.

 

[dozerII]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Hey Mag I used Nautalex and glued with 3M spray 90 for covering boxes, lids and panels it works great in conjuction with SS staples as Grandad said you have to cut relief v notchs in tight corners, and a heat gun will help too. put the spray 90 on both surfaces and you do have the ability to pull back and re glue a couple times while fitting the material. Another thing that is in the Nautalex instruction is all edges have to have a mechanical fastener or the vinyl will shrink , curl and lift They mean it.

 

[magnumdeke]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

Sounds like nautolex will work for most of what I need, was gonna go cheap and paint most every thing but now I been pricing the vinyl out and I think it will be money well spent, hopefully it is tough stuff, guaranteed there gonna be down rigger weights and lures with sharp hooks bouncing around from time to time.
Wonder if it would look nice on the top of the gunnels, sure would be cool to have some anti slip up there for getting around, would have to come up with some edging to fasten down to prevent the curl. I definitely need something at the stern between my bench seat and the swim platform. Really do not want any slip and fall accidents.
So I need to do some research into some kind of aluminum edging?!

 

[Grandad]

Re: Magnumdekes 1976 22' Starcraft Islander

I want to do the floor and fold it up on the foam on the sides sand then wrap my side panels install them with a bead of caulk at the floor joint and then install seat boxes.

Because Nautolex has a textured surface, I don't think you should plan on adding any caulk on top of it that might show after. It will work, but depending upon the caulk and cleaning solvent that you use, it could leave quite a mess that will be hard to wipe off. Also, you wouldn't want to use a solvent that could attack the Nautolex. - Grandad