Man vs. Boat (season 1).

jasoutside

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

I have nothing overly helpful to contribute but...

1. Man, I bet it feels good to be done grinding and on to actually rebuilding stuff!:)

2. I've been thinking about growing out my beard too. My wife hates it though, how'd you get a way with it?:confused:
 

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Ok a couple issues I see here.......you secretly want to be an architect don't you....I can tell from how you laid out the measurements on your cutting board :D Only someone with a sick twisted mind like ours would do something like that....I bet you line everything up nice and square, checking the dimensions carefully don't you? :eek:

Secondly, that hole in your transom looks like Jaws took a bite out of it!

Nice job, keep up the great work!
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Great videos & congrats on beginning the PUT BACK! :) :)

Tearing the CSM along the edges looks like a great idea. Seen it done filling in during patch work, torn edges feather & sand better then hard edges. Makes sense to do it along the edge of the panels too.

1 question is it the love of the sanding & initial resin application or the the soundtrack that makes you work so stinking fast? :D :eek: At that pace, by xmas, you could be installed & done w/ transom! And deep into stringers by New Years!
Maybe I can send Jasoutside an MP3......​

Good job! Got a good looking crew, how'd ya convince someone else to crawl under the lifted boat & change a castor???
 

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I like the cutout for the trash can on the fiberglass table. I did that in the back of my bar and I usually fill it with ice for drinks, lol
....Good work, keep it coming!
It helps to use a router to round teh edges and 1708 will round over that very easily.

Thanks Zak - even better idea on the bar. I thought about a router - but don't have one, so I just used by grinder with a 40 grit pad to round them off a bit.... Always wanted one and always looking for an excuse to add a new tool to my small (but growing) inventory, so I'll pick one up.

I have nothing overly helpful to contribute but...

1. Man, I bet it feels good to be done grinding and on to actually rebuilding stuff!

2. I've been thinking about growing out my beard too. My wife hates it though, how'd you get a way with it?:confused:

Yes, it does feel good although I found a breach in the fiberglass up under the glove box console towards the bow - looks like a hard collision with a dock - no wonder the front part of my boat up by the gas tank was so wet and rotten.... So, that will have to be ground and patched...

Tell Jen (that's her name right?) that Courtney sends one official yard pass and one beard pass from Mississippi.... Consider it a Christmas gift from down south - tell her she has to honor a present given to by some other dude's wife down in MS and see how that goes over; :eek: In all seriousness, I think she feels sorry for me given that I am little challenged up top (it's either turning grey or turning loose), so in her deluded sense of compassion, she actually seems to like it... Plus, how's a guy supposed to survive these frigid MS winters without a beard (I mean, it's going to get down to 50 tonight). ;)

Ok a couple issues I see here.......you secretly want to be an architect don't you....I can tell from how you laid out the measurements on your cutting board :D Only someone with a sick twisted mind like ours would do something like that....I bet you line everything up nice and square, checking the dimensions carefully don't you? :eek:

Secondly, that hole in your transom looks like Jaws took a bite out of it!

Nice job, keep up the great work!

It's funny you mention that...my parents actually wanted me to go into architecture, and if I had any other career, it would probably have been that... However, it was a shorter walk from the fraternity house to the liberal arts building and the classes were way easier... So, hence, worthless major, have to go to law school route...

Yes, OMC had their factory shark take a huge bite out of my boat's "as*"

Great videos & congrats on beginning the PUT BACK!

1 question is it the love of the sanding & initial resin application or the the soundtrack that makes you work so stinking fast? At that pace, by xmas, you could be installed & done w/ transom! And deep into stringers by New Years!
Maybe I can send Jasoutside an MP3......​

Good job! Got a good looking crew, how'd ya convince someone else to crawl under the lifted boat & change a castor???

Thanks JBC - I have to hide the flaws in my work by putting the film on high speed - that's actually 4X. That fella changing the castor is my cousin... He's always willing to lend a hand... and has no fear, so it works out great...

I drove out to the shop tonight just to check on the work. The transom glassing was a success...It cured nicely with no air pockets.... So, I was pretty juiced that my first lay-up (albeit a very small one on a flat surface) turned out pretty good.

Have a good one fellas and thanks for watching and chiming in with the words of support. It really does help!!
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Patrick,

Xylol or Xylene will clean that bubble roller really well. Acetone too, but xylene does the job a bit better.
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Glad to see that you found a way to build the transom. I have always hated to be indecisive. Your plan looks great.

The glass work looked perfect. Are you sure OOPs didn't come by and do it. (LOL) :D

Keep making the vids. I really enjoy watching them.

Kent
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Great videos man, really enjoying watching you work, haha:D Might need to get some safety gear together for the kids!;)

Don't worry to much about screwing up on any layups. Its only glass and resin. Anything can be grinded out and fixed if you do screw up. What kind of baby roller was that????? lol A little hint, buy a bondo spreader, the little plastic ones you find at autozone. They will help you spread out the resin and then you can back roll it. Happy holidays man
 

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hi buddy......finally got time to check in.

great vids......but i missed the repete of the three minit mark in the last one......but i did see some blood when you were taking the rocker panel out....

save the whole dash and console....that is a nice peice....it will sell for a few sheckels.

ok...ditto on what chris said above...as well...a fuzzy paint roller works great as well...then after its all wetted out...you can roll the air out with your resin roller....it will cut your work time by a third....

im not a big fan of the gap in the transom.....why is it there?....what is not allowing the wood to fully match the hull?

it is possibly that if not done correctly your boat will allways want to dog track. (for lack of a better word) as the drive angle could be slightly off center bow. this will result in loss of speed and higher fuel mileage
try to get that squaired up as best you can.
even if you pull the skin to the transom....it might throw the alignment off.

lol.....i can seee you have really been working on the shop.....you have a glass rack and a cutting table.....side supports on the hull....lol...you are set up better than a lot of boat shops. ....

dont worry about the vice grip marks in the transom.....i see you filled them in with plastic wood....any imperfections like that and peanut butter will make up the difference.

you have really been working hard on the project and for the time line you are really coming along well.....kudos to you.

cheers bud
ward
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Patrick,

Xylol or Xylene will clean that bubble roller really well. Acetone too, but xylene does the job a bit better.

Thanks for the tip, WOG, I'll pick some up....

The glass work looked perfect. Are you sure OOPs didn't come by and do it. (LOL) :D

Keep making the vids. I really enjoy watching them.

Kent

Thanks Kent, Hope the plan works... still a little unsure but I won't ever get done just thinking about it... had to move forward. Appreciate the kind words.

Great videos man, really enjoying watching you work, haha:D Might need to get some safety gear together for the kids!;) .....What kind of baby roller was that????? lol A little hint, buy a bondo spreader, the little plastic ones you find at autozone. They will help you spread out the resin and then you can back roll it. Happy holidays man

HaHaHa... LOL...NOTE TO SELF: (ditch the little girly man roller). Appreciate the tips, and yeah I make the kids go play outside when I start sanding or applying the poly. They have started to bring their bikes out to the shop, and ride around on the property, so it works out for both of us.

......but i did see some blood when you were taking the rocker panel out....
.....im not a big fan of the gap in the transom.....why is it there?....what is not allowing the wood to fully match the hull?
....i see you filled them in with plastic wood....any imperfections like that and peanut butter will make up the difference.
ward

Thanks Ward, Yeah, there was a little blood involved on that work day.... Even the starcraft glassers will cut you.... go figure... Yeah, I"m not a big fan of the gap either... I am certainly not taking it lightly.... However, I think I have a decent plan to address... Rather than bore everyone who is following along (but tired of hearing about my transom), I'll explain where my head is at in a PM or something.

Thanks guys and P.S. here is a picture of my transom once it cured. the light areas are flash not air bubbles.
Transom glassed.jpg
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

'Puter finally cooperated and got to watch the vids, Thanks...
I really enjoyed the snow falling in the first one...I haven't seen snow. let alone falling, in more than a decade...;)
Have a wonderful Christmas.
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Not a real boat build unless you bleed out some:D

mccraney, Merry Christmas to you and yours broham!!!:)
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

I really enjoyed the snow falling in the first one...I haven't seen snow. let alone falling, in more than a decade...;)
Have a wonderful Christmas.

That is just cheating bud.....no snow in a decade?

im so soory you will miss the joys of snow......things like shovelling your drive way.....scraping ice and snow off your car windsheild every day......frost bite.....and lastly....having your tongue stuck to a frost fence.
 

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That is just cheating bud.....no snow in a decade?

And that's only because I went to see it up in New Hampshire...
It only kind'a sort'a snowed/frosted here back in about '78...:rolleyes:
...even made the news...haha...
 

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GT... You are throwing me off here... I am either really dense and missed a good joke, or you ate some funky mushrooms before watching my vids (what snow were you talking about??). I live in MS.... the only white stuff we ever have on the ground is cotton.

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ROFLMAO!!!...At the bottom of the vid you posted, there is a little snowflake icon, when you click on it, it starts snowing in your vid...:D
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

I really need to get a video camera, love watching you guys work and it sure helps people learn easier if they can see it happening...even if it is at high speed! I am itching to start some glass work...really need to get a shop built, but my land is all hill, don't even have a drivable access to my backyard....tried to get the guy who owns the lot next to me to sell, it is undeveloped, and they live in California, with no plans to develop it...they only purchased it for landowner rights to our lakes during vacations...

Anyhow have a Merry Christmas, and hope to see the progress continue!
 

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Hi Patrick,

Just finished getting caught up on your resto... Great work man! I would say man is kicking boats butt! I'm looking forward to seeing the construction, after all your deconstruction!

Great score on the donor Starcraft! That should be some great power for your boat! I'm very interested in your solution for the gap between the glass skin to your new transom.

The folks in this forum are so great and knowledgeable, and I'm sure will guide/advise to the best solution. I'm needing to flip my boat for minor keel repair, and re-paint bottom soon before getting started constructing the new decks. Not sure exactly how to go about this????

Anyhow, I hope you and the family have a blessed holiday season. I'm looking forward to Man vs Boat 2012! Peace brutha!
 

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Hey Patrick! Looking good man! your fiberglass work came out excellent. The more you work with it the better you'll get at it. Do you plan to re-use that switch panel? My boat had switches like that, but mine were coated with rubber, which was all cracked and baked. I found some hard plastic replacements, as well as purchased all of my wire from www.genuinedealz.com. The switches are priced very fair, and are available with red or amber backlighting, and multiple pole/throw configurations. The wire is marine grade tinned copper ("pacer" brand), in all guages and lengths at a great price, and free shipping on all orders. Just a thought if you haven't purchased wiring supplies yet. Its still amazing to me that you manage to get so much done while married and raising those wonderful children! Just figured I'd drop a line to tell you I'm still tuned in and following closely! Keep up the great work, you'll be there in no time!

-Mike
 

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I empathize completely. My second Man vs Boat episode began on 9-19. I was cruising for most of the day at abt 10 kts and when I left a no wake zone and I stretched her legs. A minute later the engine made the gawdawfullest noise I ever heard, then shut down. I looked at the temp guage and it was pointing at OMG. I was adrift and about to get friendly with a freighter and then the engine had cooled enough to restart. It ran like hell and the oil pressure was down to 20, but she made it back to the marina under her own power.The compression check showed I came in on five cylinders. Since the three faulty cylinders were all on the port bank, I assumed I needed the heads rebuilt. I took them to the shop, and the next weekend I noticed the #3 piston was missing a peice. My boating season just ended. Since then I've been renting an old coot's barn and pulled the engine. I took off the oil pan and found piston pieces from the starboard side. Now the whole engine is at the shop getting rebuilt. I noted the ubiquitous rotten transom syndrome earlier this year, so that must be done, now that the engine is out. When I started removing the deck, I noted Reinell pretty much designed it to soak up water, and it is now on the list too. I loosened the bottom of the aft cabin bulkhead to access the deck edge. It got stuck when I tried to put it back in place, so I gave it a kick. My foot went clean through it. It looks like I will be busy this winter. Fortunately, I get three day weekends and lotsa iboat furum. The amount of transom rebuilding info here is phenominal. Boats, gotta love'm.
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

ROFLMAO!!!...At the bottom of the vid you posted, there is a little snowflake icon, when you click on it, it starts snowing in your vid...:D

Okay... I seriously had no idea.... Not sure how that little feature snuck on there. Somewhat trippy and yet holiday appropriate at the same time.

Jas and JDA; Thanks for the Christmas wishes... I hope you guys have a great one too!!!

Mike: I'm not going to reuse that switch panel... I'll probably sell it, so I appreciate the leads on supplies. I am going to put all new stuff in there, but try to keep it classic and true to the original as possible. Thanks for the kind words... Yes, it's definitely a balancing act with work, kids, etc.., but the boat has been fun for all of us, and I hope we actually get to use it one day....

Steve: Thanks for stopping by... Yes, your story sounds eerily familiar... We all share the common brotherhood of rotten transoms and/or leaky rivets... Hang in there and stay the course.... I am having a blast working on my boat... It's like training for a marathon or something, but with a big learning curve/mental aspect as well... Total challenge all the way around.

I went and took the shop owner a few Christmas happies this p.m., and since the little man fell asleep in the car and I was there... I thought, what the hay, I'll get a little work done while I am out here... Bad idea... After I catalyzed my resin, I realized that my little girly-man bubble roller had frozen... Even though I had left it sitting/cleaning in acetone... I tried to take it apart and clean it, but no joy... I didn't want to waste the resin, so I went for it, even though my roller really didn't "roll" that well... So, I had a tough time with the glassin'...Not nearly as good as the first lay-up, but hopefully manageable...

Then, I decided to try and build up my transom a bit with some peanut butter to try and do a simultaneous build-up/level out so my transom piece would join a little more "snug." It was a little cool in the shop, so it took a while to kick; I tried to smooth it out with a trowel and basically just made a big mess...

Oh well, I'll get there eventually.... Nothing that can't be fixed..

In case I'm not back on here in the next couple of days, I hope all of my iboats friends have a peaceful, restful and joyful Christmas/holiday season.
 
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