Moving a 30ft boat 450 miles on a converted mobile home trailer

BrandonHa

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Re: Moving a 30ft boat 450 miles on a converted mobile home trailer

You betcha. I will have some prices posted tomorrow first thing! :)
 

Gary H NC

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Re: Moving a 30ft boat 450 miles on a converted mobile home trailer

Also your truck will need a brake controller added and you will need the 7 pin round RV type connection or you will not have any brakes.
Add another 150 bucks or so there...
 

hungupthespikes

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Re: Moving a 30ft boat 450 miles on a converted mobile home trailer

I vote for the pro's. But nothing like a little spice in your life. :D.
The tires should be fine, but check several times the first miles. Use gloves and feel for loose or missing tread.
Try and pull a buddy's electric brake trailer before you pull the boat, it's different and you need to know what the right setup feels like. If you can, have him set the brakes heavy and light so you get a good feel of both, will give you more confidence.
By all means get rid of the fly bridge, the wind will play havoc with a 1/2 ton truck and that fly bridge would add to the problem big time in high winds.

No one mentioned the mirrors, you can rent them if you don't have them. Put them on before you leave the house to get them locked down and use them on the way there.

The most important thing is to get the tongue weight right before you hit highway speeds. Find some scales close by the boat and get everything set the night before the trip back, You'll sleep better.

The air shocks are great, but too many drivers pump them up and transfer too much weight to the trailer and off the hitch. The uncontrollable sway at highway speed is nothing you ever want to go through so keep the tongue on the heavy side where it belongs.
here's a link.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/information/tongue-weight1.htm

Hey don't let us scare you off. I'm sure you will get everything setup right and will have a safe trip. :)
 

MTboatguy

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I forgot to ask, are you going to be towing this as dead weight on the hitch? Or are you going to have access to a weight distribution hitch? A WDH would make a world of different in transferring weight load, so if you have someone you can borrow a head from, or even rent one, I know U-Haul locally here rents them, then I would do it, and as I and others have said, brakes, brakes and brakes again, you can't check them enough!

Did I mention Brakes! :D

in looking at your videos, and your pictures, I would take the flying bridge off as others have said, and then re-install if you decide you want it, but that darn gorge can be a real Bi**H if there is any wind at all, if it was me, I might even consider taking the flying bridge off and picking up a couple of sheets of plywood and temp attach them from the bow to the top of the cab, to create a more wind friendly profile on the front of the boat...without the windows in it, your going to have a sail with the wind going in the window holes, or at least cover the cutouts with plywood. Do anything you can to streamline it a bit, and it will pay off in the end..

Also, if you find yourself in a wind situation, pull off in one of the rest areas and wait it out, you will kill yourself trying to tow in the wind in the gorge, fatigue will make it a more dangerous venture, so don't let yourself get fatigued, it is always better to sit it out, then try to fight it..
 

BrandonHa

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Re: Moving a 30ft boat 450 miles on a converted mobile home trailer

I have been on the phone for over 3 hours trying to find a place to haul the boat for me. With very little success until I found this site. I found one guy that was a heck of a cool fella that gave me a rough price of $1.85 a mile.

He suggested I do it myself, that was without the whole story though. I called the Yacht club and asked them, they referred me to a boat yard who then referred me to a fella they use. I got a message in with them to call back.

I found a website that I think everyone should look in to if they are thinking about having anything (boats or otherwise) transported.

http://www.uship.com

You can create a listing for free but if you pay a small amount it will bump your listing up towards the top. Thats the way I understand it anyway. I paid $18.00 but could of done it for free.

Its like a backwards ebay for shipping :D

You set your price or range and all the info. If you click on "request a bid" there is 886 people (companies?) in the directory for boat moving. They list them as "Service Providers".

10 minutes after I placed my ad requesting bids I have my first one for $800. Thats much cheaper then I can do it for I am sure. I got a email, txt message and a automated phone call telling me about my bid!
 
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Gary H NC

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Sounds like a good idea! let the Pros do it...
You will probably get other bids for less.
Just make sure they are legit and insured...;)
 

BrandonHa

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Breaks, who needs breaks?! haha :)

I made a call to the dealer where I bought my truck today. I found out I already have a tranny cooler on my truck. Doh! I feel kinda stupid for not knowing that.

Turns out I have the small 4L60 Transmission. I think that by itself shoots me down for doing the haul by myself.

I bet I have made 20 phone calls so far today and I have more to go. But that website that I found (in the above post) sure seems like a time saver.

I still will have to go over there and get the boat ready for the move. I am assuming whoever I find to move it will use the trailer its on and not put it on a big flat bed. I dont know this for sure, but seems logical.

So I will go over and put the new tires on it. I am also going to cut that fly bridge off. In looking and talking to others I think we all agree that the fly bridge has to go. Even if I do choose to have a fly bridge I dont think I will want one that dramatic anyway.

Your idea about the sheets of plywood on the bow I think are genious! I am pretty much sure that I wont be pulling it myself. Even with insurance its not worth it. They would not pay to replace anything I broke on my truck and we all know that something would break.

I am sure I will get more bids but even if accepted the one at $800 thats much better then what I can do in the long run.

Maybe I can pull the boat around home here a couple times just to say I did it. A new bigger truck is kind of at the very bottom of the fine print on my want list. I should say high on my want list but really really low on the "needs" list :D

We need to have a thread on iboats about "How to approach your wife about more boat money" ;)

There is a weight scale here at home, I see lots of people stopping and weighing in there. Its just down the road from here. Then I will be able to get the real actual weight and do the math from there for the future.


I forgot to ask, are you going to be towing this as dead weight on the hitch? Or are you going to have access to a weight distribution hitch? A WDH would make a world of different in transferring weight load, so if you have someone you can borrow a head from, or even rent one, I know U-Haul locally here rents them, then I would do it, and as I and others have said, brakes, brakes and brakes again, you can't check them enough!

Did I mention Brakes! :D

in looking at your videos, and your pictures, I would take the flying bridge off as others have said, and then re-install if you decide you want it, but that darn gorge can be a real Bi**H if there is any wind at all, if it was me, I might even consider taking the flying bridge off and picking up a couple of sheets of plywood and temp attach them from the bow to the top of the cab, to create a more wind friendly profile on the front of the boat...without the windows in it, your going to have a sail with the wind going in the window holes, or at least cover the cutouts with plywood. Do anything you can to streamline it a bit, and it will pay off in the end..

Also, if you find yourself in a wind situation, pull off in one of the rest areas and wait it out, you will kill yourself trying to tow in the wind in the gorge, fatigue will make it a more dangerous venture, so don't let yourself get fatigued, it is always better to sit it out, then try to fight it..
 

avenger79

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if the trailer has a flat four pin plug it does not have elec trailer brakes. I doubt that style of trailer has surge brakes either. if it were designed to haul a mobile home at one time it would have air bakes that your truck cannot power.
if it had elec brakes it would have a round 7 pin connector on the trailer.
 

Gary H NC

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if the trailer has a flat four pin plug it does not have elec trailer brakes. I doubt that style of trailer has surge brakes either. if it were designed to haul a mobile home at one time it would have air bakes that your truck cannot power.
if it had elec brakes it would have a round 7 pin connector on the trailer.

Mobile home haulers still use electric brakes for the most part.
The tractor has a connection for the trailer's electric brakes although the tractor itself is air brakes.

Electric is cheaper and they consider the axles and tires are pretty much just to get it to the site the mobile home is put on.

I have seen those axles and wheels on Craigslist many times.
They get the house delivered and want the axles gone.
 

SigSaurP229

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Find a local truck stop and get a commercial vehicle map $20.00 it will show you all the low bridges and weight restricted bridges on your route. Strap it down and be prepared to stop at any and all weight stations on your trip you will probably get inspected. If the tires are not dry rotted and the tread depths are 4/32 or more you are good check the pressure with a guage and hit them with a hammer (you should get a significant bounce back). Stop after an hour of driving and inspect the rig again. You should be fine all you are doing is pulling a really long trailer it will probably be easier to back the thing up too.
 

avenger79

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Mobile home haulers still use electric brakes for the most part.
The tractor has a connection for the trailer's electric brakes although the tractor itself is air brakes.

Electric is cheaper and they consider the axles and tires are pretty much just to get it to the site the mobile home is put on.

I have seen those axles and wheels on Craigslist many times.
They get the house delivered and want the axles gone.

very interesting. makes since I guess that they wouldn't put a whole air brake system on them. thanks for the info.
 

NSBCraig

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What? Lose the flybridge? That's the coolest.

If someone else is hauling it and your under13'6" there's not much reason to do that.

Man if I had a say!

What's yer wifes number I'm gonna have to call her so she can give you the final NO on that!:D
 

BrandonHa

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Finally someone that appreciates my stupid sense of humor :D

I bought 8 tires and wheels for the trailer yesterday. All of the tires are 8x14.5 and 4 of the 8 wheels are the right ones. $25 bucks for a tire and wheel so $200 total. I will end up with 4 wheels that are useless to me but either way it was a great buy.

One of the tires thats on a good wheel is hammered pretty bad. All in all I will end up with a good set of 8x14.5's and a couple spares.


What? Lose the flybridge? That's the coolest.

If someone else is hauling it and your under13'6" there's not much reason to do that.

Man if I had a say!

What's yer wifes number I'm gonna have to call her so she can give you the final NO on that!:D
 

BrandonHa

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Ok, I totally screwed this post up. I had the wrong url in there for the shipping place.

I edited it and fixed the url, so hopefully it will make more sense now

I have been on the phone for over 3 hours trying to find a place to haul the boat for me. With very little success until I found this site. I found one guy that was a heck of a cool fella that gave me a rough price of $1.85 a mile.

He suggested I do it myself, that was without the whole story though. I called the Yacht club and asked them, they referred me to a boat yard who then referred me to a fella they use. I got a message in with them to call back.

I found a website that I think everyone should look in to if they are thinking about having anything (boats or otherwise) transported.

http://www.uship.com

You can create a listing for free but if you pay a small amount it will bump your listing up towards the top. Thats the way I understand it anyway. I paid $18.00 but could of done it for free.

Its like a backwards ebay for shipping :D

You set your price or range and all the info. If you click on "request a bid" there is 886 people (companies?) in the directory for boat moving. They list them as "Service Providers".

10 minutes after I placed my ad requesting bids I have my first one for $800. Thats much cheaper then I can do it for I am sure. I got a email, txt message and a automated phone call telling me about my bid!
 

Gary H NC

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I think Tashasdaddy posted or talked about them before.
 

BrandonHa

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Just hung up with the transporter. This is going to be so much better then moving it myself. He told me that what he needed was, good bearings, good tires and straight axels. Oh and be under 14' 6" so I might not have to chainsaw my fly bridge off after all :D

I understand the uship thing much better now. They are a broker and they more less just put you in contact with the transporters. There is a couple ways you can do it. I guess I did it the wrong way but the fella I just talked to who was the transporter just basically paid uship for my information. Heh, I think this is how it worked anyway :)

Either way I am all set up for the first week of October. I still gotta drive over and do the bearings and tire swapping.

I am quite nervous about the breaks on the trailer and the wiring. The trailer really is pretty darn nice and there was wires that went back to the axles. I have just assumed that was the breaks. I next week when I make the 10 or 12 hour journey back over there I will know for sure
 

dave11

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Look at how much fun you are having without the boat. Just wait until you get it fixed and in the water.
 

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Electric brakes are simple, one wire to each wheel, that wire gets 12 volts applied to actuate a magnet inside the drum, that magnet is on an arm, which in turn applies the brakes.
You can test the brakes with the trailer jacked up, apply 12 volts to the brake wire, the wheel should lock up when turned. The wheel must turn for the brakes to actuate as the drum pulls on the now energized electro magnet which in turn moves the arm to spread the brake shoes.

Usually they don't have many issues when they sit, make sure everything is free inside, the pivot arm should move and the springs all need to be in good shape. I've hooked up to trailers that have sat for decades and had working brakes, the few that didn't work were usually broken or chewed wires.
 

cimy3

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Re: Moving a 30ft boat 450 miles on a converted mobile home trailer

So where is the boat now?
 

BrandonHa

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Funny you should ask. I am loading the car now. I have 8 tires and wheels, grinder, respirators, hand tools, chainsaw, cords... epoxy, 19oz cloth (Biax?) etc.. All in the wifes Escape :D

I have about 1.5 hours to finish loading the car and I still gotta strap that 8ft ladder to the roof.

So if anyone between NE Washington and Vancouver, WA see's a yellow ford escape with a ladder strapped to the roof honk your horn and give us a wave :)

Hopefully I remember to put her clothes and a tooth brush in the car. lol. She is coming with this time, its gonna be fun a trip.

Saturday morning I am giving it the final picking over with the new tires, double check that those really are breaks and putting the I bolt in the bow. I should say the tires are not new, just new to me. They are used but seem to be in decent shape.

I am guessing Monday or Tuesday the boat will be here. I will post all of the details as they happen. I been talking with the transporters and they are ready whenever the boat is.

Maybe someday this thread will help out someone else wanting to move a 30ft pink trawler from one side of the state to the other.


So where is the boat now?
 
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