Moving a 30ft boat 450 miles on a converted mobile home trailer

NSBCraig

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Keep us updated, with pics too.
 

cimy3

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Be safe and good luck.
 

BrandonHa

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Well it was a great weekend! We got home at 2:00am Monday morning. The wife had to be at work at 8:00 and then her Chemistry class after work. So she was a little worn out.

We changed out all of the tires and wheels and put the new ones on. Ya'll are gonna laugh at me on this one but my wife is the one who changed the wheels around and packed all of the bearings. I think she got tired of watching me scratch my head. I think the look on my face is commonly known as "The deer in the headlight" haha. Here is a picture of me, I am going for the Redneck fat guy GQ Cabelas catalog look along with the Canadian coffee cup mug I found on the boat trailer.

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The bearings all seemed to be in decent shape and had plenty of grease on them. We cleaned it off (Well I should say my wife cleaned em off), packed them with grease and the tires spin freely very nice.

The floor jack I brought could not get the job done on its own. Lucky for me there was another jack there. Its shaped like "A" and on the side it has a hook and then a crank on the top. Between that and the jack stands we were able to get the trailer up high enough. Then we used my floor jack to hold the axles up.

The trailer does have electric breaks on each wheel. The wiring was spliced in several places and quite the mess. It had the 5 pin flat plug (counting the ground). So I went and bought a new one and replaced the plug and about 20 feet of wiring harness.

Here is one of the goofy things in the buff without wearing its wheel and tire.

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AFTER I put the new flat plug on I found the hot wire for the breaks. The breaks have 2 wires coming out of each of them. One wire is grounded to the trailer and the hot wires are spliced to one hot wire that runs to the front of the trailer. Pretty darn simple really!

So then I learned what was said here in this thread is true, you cant wire breaks in to that 5 pin flat plug. Lesson learned, back to Riley's for another plug. The wife went and got it while I stayed and worked on strapping the boat down.

She got a 6 prong round plug, same as we have on the horse trailer. Come to find out, that one was wrong to! We found this out after she wired it in. You can see that jack in this picture to. So the plug that is in this picture is the wrong one. We were on our way home when I found this out

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Denes (pronounced Dennis) that owns the transport company. He told me many times to call him if I had questions. I did not want to bother him on the weekend. Another lesson learned, should of called him!

So now he is having one of his guys go out to the boat and wire the big 7 prong round round plug. He said the small 6 might work but in all the years he has transported boats there was only 1 boat that had the small round one and it was in Canada.

A problem that we had was missing a lug nut. The "California Wheels" are a pain in the arse to find the lug nuts for. It was a Saturday afternoon so that by itself did not help. 3 Les Schwabs and a couple tire stores later we got tired of hearing "Good luck finding one of those". So we left one wheel missing a lug nut but Denes said he would take care of it.

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I did not put the U bolt in the bow of the boat as she was to far forward and I did not have the means to slide her back to get room. Note the V in the front of the trailer. That used to be my sons inner tube for sledding. I needed to get something wedged in there to keep the boat from rubbing on it. So 3 ounces of epoxy, 2 rolls of electrical tape and 1 inner tube later I got what you see there. Talk about down and dirty. That has got to be in my top 5 all time best jury rigs. Hopefully it stays put for the transport.

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Today was going to be D day for the transport but the storage place closes at 5:30 and they did not have time to get there. I am guessing it will be over the next couple days but it kind of all depends on that stupid missing lug nut. It would not surprise me if it shows up tomorrow. I will talk to them later today and find out for sure. I am excited to get her home!
 

Gary H NC

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Re: Moving a 30ft boat 450 miles on a converted mobile home trailer

The 7 blade RV style plug is not that hard to wire.I have done many of them.

Looks like she is about ready for the trip!:D Good luck and post many pics when you get her home..;)
 

BrandonHa

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One more thing I forgot to mention.

She is 13' 6" tall
 

BrandonHa

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I have learned that those bolts are very difficult to find. The transporter could not find one either so I had to buy one online and have it mailed to him.

Hopefully if someone is looking for California wheel lug nuts and wheel clamps for a California wheel they can stumble across this thread.

I tried everywhere that I could possibly think of local and nobody had them.

So I bought them from here
http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Redline/15-2.html

I bought a couple different sized bolts because I did not measure the one that I took a picture of. They are cheap enough at $1.59 and $3.39 that it didnt break the bank. The 2 day shipping kinda of killed me though.

Total with both of those bolts and a $3.39 wheel clam including shipping was $36.12.

There were other places to find the clamps and bolts online, including Ebay even. But finding one that would do fast shipping was the hardest part. If a guy did not mind waiting a week you could get these parts pretty cheap

Hope it helps someone stuck in my situation someday!
 

reelfishin

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Those rims and hubs are actually pretty common, at least they are around here. They're mostly used on prefab housing trailer axles and commercial trailers. I've got both a dual axle 6 ton and a triple axle 12 ton trailer that uses those.
Most tire shops that do a lot of commercial or farm work have them, as will most equipment or tractor dealers.

Make sure you tighten those up evenly to be sure the rim is centered and there's not too much run out. If you tighten up one side first, the rim will wobble and look bent.
I've run into a few with different brand or style clamps on the same rim too that are a real pain to align. It helps when all the clamps are the same.

I also converted mine to studs and nuts versus bolts, they don't seem to work loose as often and are easier to torque down evenly.

The last ones I bought were from the local John Deere dealer here, they keep them in huge quantity, as does the Case dealer.

I had to make up a temporary bow stop like that a few weeks ago on a 24' boat I picked up, I got lucky and found a trash pile across the street from where the boat was with a roll of old carpet being tossed out. I cut several layers of heavy carpet and zip tied them in place around the bow stop with wire ties. It worked great. The wire ties kept it from moving and the carpet was easy on the boat.

Something else I found that works best over the years is that if the boat has some sort of tie down points on it, the straps work best tied from the boat to the trailer on each side, vs. being just belly strapped around the whole boat. This keeps the boat from trying to tip or move on it's bunks, especially when dealing with a larger inboard boat like that.
 

BrandonHa

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Its home! Yay!

They just dropped it off. Our wiring job held up and so did the bearing repack.

Thank you to you guys for your advice, the transporter was the best way to go without a doubt.

It was dark so I could not get any pictures tonight but I will post some tomorrow.

The fun part is gonna towing it to town with my 1/2 ton, atleast its down hill :D
 

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Congratulations, you went through some difficult decisions along the way, but made the right choices. Have a lot of fun with the boat. It looks like it'll be really nice on the water...:D
 

cimy3

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Congrats....good luck with it.
 

Gary H NC

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You got to post more pics now!:D
 

BrandonHa

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Cant believe I forgot to post more pictures!

So the boat and trailer weighs 6,200 pounds. I drove over the scale here in town. It was great and so simple. I bet it took less then 2 minutes.

You can see from the pictures that I ended up pulling it to the lake for the float test in my 1/2 ton Chevy. I gotta say it pulled it pretty darn good. The wheel that was missing the lug nut wobbled a bit and its a good thing I did not go to far.

Trailer breaks... All I can say about this is wow, what a nightmare. Not in regards to the trailer but in regards to my Chevy (its a 1997). I spent an entire day driving around trying to find a controller. I found a couple of them but I just could not make up my mind. They were both in the price range of $85.00 and I had to wire it myself because there is no factory tow package.

Then I ended up at a store that sold all kinds of different options for break controllers. As it ended up I was going to pay them $80 for the controller and 1/2 hour labor to wire it. I dont know what the labor price was, never asked.
I made an appointment to have it installed but after I got home I found one that I think plugs right in. Its a bit more money @ $130 but it is a lot nicer.

So in the end, no break controller yet because winter is coming and the boat is going to be parked. No need for me to hurry at this point.

I live at 2,400 feet elevation and the lake is about 5 miles away at 1,300 feet. Getting there was simple. The last mile or so on the way home climbs about 800 feet and it is just a dirt road. My truck did it ok but there is no doubt that I will need another truck when the boat is finished!

Oh yeah, the airbags in my truck sure have paid off. You can see from the picture that there was no squatting whatsoever. So if you are reading this and considering airbags for your springs in your own truck I highly recommend it. I dont remember if I said this in any of the other threads but in my 1997 Chevy k1500 my airbags were $600 ish. Maybe $650, somewhere in that range anyway.

Sorry it took me so long to post :)

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I take it since it has no engines or driveshafts the hull was never drilled or is plugged somehow since you were able to float test it?

It sits nicely in the water, that's going to be a cool looking boat when it's done.

Glad to see you got home without incident!
 

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Yeah there was / is holes along the the keel for the keel plate. Maybe 6 small holes? Then where the rudder goes was another hole that I am guessing is around 2" maybe 3.

I wetted out 3 (maybe 4) layers of fiberglass cloth. The cheap Bondo stuff from Walmart. Got them saturated pretty good and then stuck em to some duct tape. Then stuck the duct tape to the bottom of the keel so hold my patch job while the epoxy set up.

I was seriously paranoid when we launched the boat, I bet I spent 15 minutes looking on the inside of the keel making sure we were not taking on water

Worked like a champ :)

The holes are drilled back out now. I have not ground off the remnants, will do that when I start in on her
 

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Congrats., It looks like Thomas the Tug. :)
 

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I'll echo Summer Fun's comment and add:

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:D:D:D
 

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You can really use your mobile home trailer to move a 30ft boat in 450 miles. But there are laws today that require a truck specifically designed for safe movement of a trailer home. The law also requires signal lights on the top of the truck.

EDIT: This guy ^^^^^ was a stealthy spammer who is now banned. This explains his out of context response. - ezmobee

To late, it has already been moved, Brandon made the right choices an now his new boat is at home

By the way Brandon, looks great, it reminds me so much of the fishing boat my grandfather ran out of Portland, OR back in the 60's, next time through I am going to have to stop at your place so I can take a look at her!

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Yeah there was / is holes along the the keel for the keel plate. Maybe 6 small holes? Then where the rudder goes was another hole that I am guessing is around 2" maybe 3.

I wetted out 3 (maybe 4) layers of fiberglass cloth. The cheap Bondo stuff from Walmart. Got them saturated pretty good and then stuck em to some duct tape. Then stuck the duct tape to the bottom of the keel so hold my patch job while the epoxy set up.

I was seriously paranoid when we launched the boat, I bet I spent 15 minutes looking on the inside of the keel making sure we were not taking on water

Worked like a champ :)

The holes are drilled back out now. I have not ground off the remnants, will do that when I start in on her
I probably would have looked at maybe plugging the holes with some rubber freeze plugs from the parts store. I went though the same thing with a 31' hull we repowered about 10 years ago, I wanted to float it before going ahead with the re-power so that if I found any issues, they could be handled before the motor was in the way. I also needed to see how it sat in the water to try and get an idea of where to mount the fuel tanks in her. Mine sat way high in the water without it's engine and trans and with no fuel or fuel tanks onboard.
 

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If it were my boat I'd pay someone to haul it., Let someone who knows what there doing get the headackes. Use the extra money saved to buy your motor or other things you'll need later down the road. Do you have insurance on all this ?

+1. Unfamiliar route and obstacles, untried trailer, marginal truck and a 10-hour haul. The pros are in business because they have the experience and equipment to deal with it. IMO, this is one of those 'penny wise and pound foolish' adventures I used to embark on when I was still a young buck :)

Anyway, good luck!
 
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