the 1967 Holiday 18 and Multiple Boat Syndrome

[jbcurt00]

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Looks great!

 

[jasoutside]

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That stuff is cool but so non bottom feeder $$$. You find a stash buried in the desert there bro?

I'd love to run that DuraBak on my deck(s).

 

[barato2]

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i hear ya Jas. no, no $ (or anything else) stash found out in the desert. i just decided that i have a zillion projects eternally stalled due to trying to be too much of a bottom feeder and that i needed to throw $ at this one as needed to get er done, esp on safety related stuff. also helps that i'm getting most of the other debts paid off so i have more disposable $ for the boats.....and paid less for my house than that $50K Crestliner in CO. oh, and no kids to feed/clothe/ejjicate/entertain....tradeoff there is no free galley and sanding slaves like some of y'all have.

i fish solo a lot and will be dropping about 500 on "avoid falling overboard" stuff between this stuff and the 1" SS rail. where i cheap out is stuff like rod holders ($6 plastic ones work as well as $60 SS ones) and electronics ($100 VHF transmits just as far as the $350 one). plus my console will have about $125-150 in it as opposed to 500 for a commercially built one from Todd. but yer right, it does seem like i've strayed from the Pure and Narrow Path of Bottom Feeder Resto.

FWIW, the Tuffcoat reminded me a LOt of the white elastomeric roof coating with some ground rubber added for traction and some pigment. bet you could make it work fine if you had some around and were willing to experiment.

 

[jasoutside]

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Yah man, it seems like I'm always feeding my 3 offspring. Maybe I'll take a break from that for a while, save some cash eh!

 

[CheapboatKev]

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but a weak and lethargic crew never gets the job done...The sander is heavy daddy.....lol

 

[Huron Angler]

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Great progress Barato, that Durabak looks awesome. The white will keep it as cool as possible for ya too

Your console is a fine piece of work too, and with all the electronics stashed in there it should be a neat wiring job.

Looking forward to seeing the finished product in a few weeks at your current rate

 

[barato2]

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it's actually a very light grey but does look white in the pics. i should get a pic with the wife's Nikon as it gives much better color rendition than my camera does.

heading to the cabin tonight. wonder if i have time to get that last coat done before i head out.....

 

[Bwana Don]

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You flyline a caballito perfectly out to a lonesome kelp patty..Your lil sardine is nervous, you feel his twitch, it rattles up your rod and settles into your left eye..He twitches again..Your eye blinks in unison..faster & faster line leaves your spool like a senorita mistress at 4 am..THERE HE GOES!!!! Your tip dips with weight, real weight and you have a hardfighting Yellowtail screaming line off your spool louder than a 2 year old brat's temper tantrum, do you want 9 feet of VHF in your way as you follow your beast up the rail?

OK, Kev you and Barato need to take me tuna fishing. I'll supply the RootBeer!

Bruce, making great progress Bro. I can't devote as much time to the forum as I used to, so I have to play catch up when I can. Pictures, progress, total disregard for cost control, dude who are you! I like it and can't wait to see it finished.

 

[barato2]

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Don, you know you got a standing offer. but beware, i grew up in the midwest in the 60s and know what real root beer tastes like (hint: first ingredient is not high fructose corn syrup). Kev really pegged the adrenaline rush there; i fished for many years in fresh water and never had even a moment's concern that what was at other end might pull me overboard. and i never had to take ibuprofen to be able to hoist a beer due to being sore from fighting fish. rarely caught anything that could potentially kill me. and i definitely never heard the otherworldly tortured shrieking sounds the clicker on the reel makes when something big heads for the horizon......

thanks for the kind words on boat progress, gents. good thing i went to the mountains this weekend, as i doubt i would have gotten too much done on boat with highs here of 101-102. never got over 85ish there, but creek was lower than i've ever seen it. we have same forecast all week here, but it should have cooled down to a balmy 90 or so by time i get home from work. guess i should try to bang out as much paint etc as i can, as it's pefrect enamel curing weather.

 

[barato2]

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not much progress the last 2 eves....i think getting home from mountains at 1 am and then heading off to work the next day tosses my circadian rhythms, or at least my energy level, for a loop. just mindless stuff like varnishing teak and scrubbing alum parts, a little more wirebrushing around rivets.

a few Qs i need to run past y'all:
1. i'm about to ready to put the fuel filler back into place in the spalshwell, but the orig gasket under it is history. anyone have any suggestions on finding/making/faking one? if no one has a better idea, i guess i'll just use 4200 or 5200 and let the bead fully cure before installing filler neck.

2. should i be painting the bare alum in my bilge? it will be under floor so not visible but since boat will be in salt water.....???

3. anyone have any brilliant suggestions to offer on how to clean around the rivets up under the splashwell before gluvit'ing?


a sourcing note on cable boots for motor wells: http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|292323|314182|314188&id=117881&cartId=3478109

a little vignette on the adhesion of the durabak: remember that 1" or so of dirt in the bottom of bilge, that i washed out from under ribs? hadn't yet removed it when i rolled out the Durabak. in course of rolling, it's easy to have globs of the stuff going everywhere and i dropped one on the dirt pile. it saturated through the dirt and is stuck to the floor well enough that i'm going to have to chisel it off with a putty knife and mallet...... i'm now thinking about using the remainder to do top of my truck cab and camper shell since paint gets abraded off by portabote and plywood etc being carried up there......my auto painter friend would be appalled:facepalm:

 

[GA_Boater]

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B2 - Do you happen to have an old inner tube laying around? It should be fuel resistant and you can cut to fit.

It can't hurt to paint the bilge. It sounds like leftover Durabak is a good choice. Is it oil/gas friendly? Maybe plain old bilge paint.

Brass or stainless wheel is all I can think of to clean the S/W rivets, maybe better ideas out there.

 

[barato2]

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i have lots of old inner tubes but wonder how this plan would look and how it would hold up to UV. truck mud flap would be perfect (cut w/ hole saw) but the only one i have is too thick at 3/8"

thinking i'm going to save the leftover Durabak for something, maybe top of my truck cab and camper shell. i'm just wondering if i NEED to paint the bilge to protect aluminum for saltwater use. anyone got any thoughts?

 

[CheapboatKev]

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I say you dont NEED to..May want to..but def not mandatory or it would have been treated at the factory.
Besides, she is going to be so water tight what salt water is going to be in there? And if so, a fresh water hose wash would be good Id think, maybe a bit of salt away tossed in for the helll of it

 

[barato2]

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that's what i wanted to hear. i'm tired of surface prep and still have to finish the gluvit. based on what i've seen with the Durabak, you could probably just slather it over the whole hull interior and get the same effect as gluvit. next boat....

a few pics from this week:

the new LED running light test fitted on bow

the new horns test fitted....these are Ongaros and are both full-stainless and powder coated plus i like the low profile

rough fitting the reinf block for stern cleat (yes, it will go under the gunwale):

remember those globs of spilled durabak that stuck to the floor through 1" of dirt?

why you shouldn't let fools with angle grinders near your boat

a couple more in next post. not much progress to speak of, more of that brainstorming....

 

[barato2]

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trying to fix the angle grinder damage

brainstorming session/wallowin in the MBS

is this like those images of Vishnu that you read about appearing on chapatis?

 

[barato2]

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had another weekend off from the cabin so i got after the boat again. it's frustrating sometimes to look at the pix and think how little it looks like i got done compared to how sore i feel.

finished the bottom rivet prep and got the Glouvit applied Sat morning. i'd already done the major prep with 6" wheel on the angle girinder so this just involved using the 1/2" drill and smaller wire wheels but it still left my hands and wrists really sore. pretty impressed with the Gluvit....having used both it and the competing product Coat-it, i think the Gluvit is likely to do a much better job soaking in around tiny gaps. missed a few spots here and there as i was slinging like mad to get it on before it hardened up in the can.....if pot life is 90 min @72 deg F, wonder what it is at 95 deg when being applied on shiny bare alum that's 130+. degrees. but i figure it really should flow into gaps when it's that thin from being hot. i just went over the missed spots with some plain epoxy resin the next time i mixed up a batch.

rest of weekend was mostly devoted to reassembly/reinstall of topside bits, slathering on yet more epoxy, and test fitting the stringers.

 

[InMotion]

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Good stuff man... you're doing the inside grunt work! I don't know about you, but when i "painted" on the Gluvit, it was really thick and gloopy... felt like I was trying to paint when the paint was near frozen! It was harder work than I expected. Especially given that you are in a crouched position for quite some time! Glad you got it done though. Now the insides can really get rolling... you going noodles/jugs or foam? for positive floatation? Or just some old inner tubes?

Glad to see it rollin'!

Jim

 

[barato2]

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thanks Jim. i guess that's the difference in 1000 miles latitude....my gluvit was thin as 10-30 synth oil and ran like water. the problem i had was that my knees were killing me from squatting but the alum was too hot to kneel on. i wanted to get all the inside the bare hull type jobs done before it got any hotter. now we have about 3 weeks of brutal heat and getting ready for July monsoons. guess i better order the cover ASAP.

doing the mixed plan for flotation.....pink foam and noodles as i can fit under the floor, more noodles up inside the gunwales (i want level flotation, so flotation materialunder the gunwales is critical, but don't want anything up in there that wouldn't move out of the way if i want to install more rod holders, outriggers etc down the road) , and more foam under the splashwell. i'm gonna re-use the best of the old open cell foam up under the bow after painting it with some old latex to seal it....it was mostly fine, and if it's in an area that never gets wet, should work fine. or putting it another way, if it gets waterlooged when way up under the closed bow, i have bigger problems than waterlogged foam..... i strongly suspect it floats more dead weight per cubic foot than the pink stuff given the apparent mass.

DEVIL WITH A BROWN TRUCK BROWN TRUCK BROWN TRUCK
DEVIL WITH A BROWN TRUCK ON................
yup, Mr UPS brought me a box of looong rivets today. about ready to think about dropping floor back in but a few Qs for those who have done it:
1. stringers apparently were originally riveted down to the ribs with 1/8" altho some of the holes are hogged out enough that i'll just drill out to 3/16". what size rivets are y'all using for this job? should i just drill em all out to use 3/16" or is this overkill?

2. how do you locate the holes in ribs so your holes in new floorboards will line up? my old floors are too rotted/bowed to be a very good template for holes.

and another Q for those who have replaced the plywooid exterior transom "plate" where the motor clamps sit: did you seal the space between the wood plate and alum transom skin with anything, or just paint well under the plate?

thanks for any input!

 

[Bwana Don]

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Looks good Barato. How's that Durabak for getting hot? I was looking at some Tuff-Coat for the inside of Sea Scamp but heard it gets pretty hot.

I may have missed it but; What happened to the Chrysler? You still going to use it?

 

[Bwana Don]

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thanks for posting that link. so your transom was OK and it was just the splashwell that was messed up?

black widow bites have no long term effect on lawyers, not a negative one anyway.....professional courtesy and all that

no wiring last night. figured out that i managed to cut my console sections just sliiiightly off square, about 3/32" over 45" height. and i already have bracing etc glued in place, so i spent eve trying to figure out how to do a kludge to get it together without too much visual imperfection or weakness. who hired that moron carpenter anyway?

i like the fact that Faria's box on the gauge set includes a template. how are y'all cutting speedo and tach holes? not sure i have a hole saw that big. fly cutter, or great faith in your jigsaw work?

i did get the last few items off topsides and pulled all old wiring from hull, and figured out how i'm going to do the bulkhead that will extend straight down from old dash to give me dry lockable storage in bow. debating back and forth on whether to keep the parcel tray, but currently leaning towards yanking it to get the extra 5" of open space. might be able to section it and re-use elsewhere in boat.

Prolly a day late but here goes;

Cut with a hole saw and use a sanding disk to hog out to final shape. You know the round type with the rubber core, you tighten up the screw in the end and it cinches up the abrasive drum. I like to put it in a drill press with the sanding drum about .005 above the table. Bring it down in the hole and hula hoop it. Opens her right up.

Sorry, slowly catching up with all the restos. Zach is now out of school (thank goodness), and we've almost finished stripping the Scamp. I'll post pics soon. Deck gets pulled in the Offshore in about a week or two. This thread is an inspiration to me.