Worst tow vehicle you have used !!!

moterboat

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Well,posted the worst towing vehicle for towing,1991 explorer,it overheated the transmission on my last post and boiled the fluid the first time I used it to pull the boat,well now the transmission went out all togeather,now Im going to change it over to stick shift and put a lower gear in the rear,I think this will work..I hope. it has the highest gear in it now that ford used in 91..
 

1730V

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Moterboater,

I don't know what your issue is with the Explorer Auto. Thousands have towed flawlessly without issue. Your going to a standard trans automatically drops your tow rating to 2000 pounds. You're going the wrong way.

If I remember right, your vehicle has a 3.27. That is the tallest gear Ford offered. The trailer tow package was a minimum of 3.55 standard, limited slip optional. A 3.73 and 4.10 ratio was available on Ediie Bauer versions due to taller tires.

The Ranger uses the same diff. gears (8.8" ring) for that vintage up to about 2001. They should be easy to find

Get the right diff. ratio and your issues are gone.
 

moterboat

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Moterboater,

I don't know what your issue is with the Explorer Auto. Thousands have towed flawlessly without issue. Your going to a standard trans automatically drops your tow rating to 2000 pounds. You're going the wrong way.

If I remember right, your vehicle has a 3.27. That is the tallest gear Ford offered. The trailer tow package was a minimum of 3.55 standard, limited slip optional. A 3.73 and 4.10 ratio was available on Ediie Bauer versions due to taller tires.

The Ranger uses the same diff. gears (8.8" ring) for that vintage up to about 2001. They should be easy to find

Get the right diff. ratio and your issues are gone.
you need to do what I did.. its called research,ask 8 different transmission tech's about how the A4LD's are for towing!!!and my towing weight is 2000lbs..you really should do research before responding to a post like this,the tallest gear ford makes is a 3.27?? try a 3.07 code #43 for 1991// my vehicle has a 3.07.. this is for the explorers from 1991. the tech's say the A4LD is designed for a 3000lb vehicle,the 4 door explorer weighs around 4100lbs,its already overworked before towing.the A4lD is a light duty trans,and if you towed without any problems you were just luckey..and if you really like the A4LD,I'll be glad to sell you mine..cheap..they stopped useing A4LD's in 1994,in 1995 much better trans..:).:)
 

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Have to install a bigger heater if the going gets too tough !!!! LOL

Middle of July

Scorching heat

Down the highway

Roof up. Windows down

Heaters turned on full blast.

Not a nice way to start or finish a vacation. But the LeBaron sold. Someone wanted it since it had a itch on it :eek: Well.. I warned him not to tow my boat... what he does after that is up to him. As for the Jimmy... very positive. Especially for fun time 4WDing through the bush.
 

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you need to do what I did.. its called research,ask 8 different transmission tech's about how the A4LD's are for towing!!!and my towing weight is 2000lbs..you really should do research before responding to a post like this,the tallest gear ford makes is a 3.27?? try a 3.07 code #43 for 1991// my vehicle has a 3.07.. this is for the explorers from 1991. the tech's say the A4LD is designed for a 3000lb vehicle,the 4 door explorer weighs around 4100lbs,its already overworked before towing.the A4lD is a light duty trans,and if you towed without any problems you were just luckey..and if you really like the A4LD,I'll be glad to sell you mine..cheap..they stopped useing A4LD's in 1994,in 1995 much better trans..:).:)

The A4LD isn't much different from the newer versions of that trans. The newer electric shift 5R55 and similar are still the same basic light duty trans. The clutches are just as small and it has the same weak points. It just cost more to overhaul now.
I have a 94 Ranger with a Manual trans and 3.08 rear, it's probably the worst set up for towing, a gear change would fix most of that. The clutch set up in these isn't much better than the auto trans is. I've gone through a clutch master cylinder every year and about half that as far as clutch slave cylinders. The clutch itself has lasted 121K so far. The next time the slave cylinder pukes I will most likely replace everything since the trans will be out. I am hoping that I'll have replaced the truck by that time though.
I've towed some pretty heavy trailers considering they rate these for 2,000 lbs towing capacity. My problem isn't towing weight down the road but launching the boat. Backing down the ramp unloads the rear wheels and this tend to shift the weight rearward enough to let the rear tires just spin on a slick or wet ramp.

I've tried adding weight but it does little to help, I'd need to add so much weight it would become a hindrance itself.

What bothers me is that Ford never really solved the trans problem in this class of truck over the years, the Ranger/Explorer series has always had trans and engine concerns, which is too bad since the rest of the truck is fine. The older 2.3L/2.5L and the 3.0 are the best engine choices, but they never offered them in the Explorer, only the problem ridden 2.9/4.0L engines and now that DOHC 4.0L that's had all sorts of issues.
On my Ranger, two changes would make all the difference, one is a lower rear ratio, probably a 3.73 gear and then if nothing else, a trans with an external slave cylinder or cable operated clutch.

Also, someone mentioned that Rangers use the 8.8" rear, that's not normally the case in those years, most had the smaller 7.5" rear that was never much of a work horse. The 8.8" rear for these trucks is hard to find since so many Ranger owners are after them to swap out the lame 7.5". The 8.8" rear from an Explorer will bolt into the Ranger and makes a marked improvement. If I was to change my rear axle ration, I would also upgrade to the 8.8" rear.
 

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Worst tow vehicle. I had a 89 Chevy half ton with a 4.3 V6 and a 5 speed. It didn't have any power. But the biggest problem was that throttle body fuel injection does not work with a stick shift. First of all it won't allow you to run the engine anywhere between idle and 1800 RPM so every time you took off you had to burn the clutch. Then when you went to shift it would not allow the engine RPM's to drop off so that when you pushed in the clutch it would rev up real high. You might as well not have taken your foot off the gas at all. It wouldn't allow the engine to slow down between gears. GM"s throttle body injections was a terrible fuel delivery system. But, you can't tell that to any Chevy guys. No matter how bad it is it will always be good in there eyes just because it's a Chevy.
 

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Charlie, you TBI had the same problem my 87 Chevy G20 had. It wasn't like that on all TBIs. On mine the throttle plate would physically hit the throat of the "carb". I could manually push the throttle closed more to get a slower idle. I eventually put a real heavy throttle return spring on it, and it solved the problem, but the cruise control couldn't pull hard enough to use! But since I only put 3500 miles on it in 5 years, I didn't need cruise very often!
BTW, my van was both the Worst and Best tow vehicle I have ever used. But that's cause it's the only one I ever used!
 

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Charlie, you TBI had the same problem my 87 Chevy G20 had. It wasn't like that on all TBIs. On mine the throttle plate would physically hit the throat of the "carb". I could manually push the throttle closed more to get a slower idle. I eventually put a real heavy throttle return spring on it, and it solved the problem, but the cruise control couldn't pull hard enough to use! But since I only put 3500 miles on it in 5 years, I didn't need cruise very often!
BTW, my van was both the Worst and Best tow vehicle I have ever used. But that's cause it's the only one I ever used!


Well, I took it to the local mechanic and he charged me 300 dollars to remove, clean, and adjust the throttle body system. It didn't help it at all. I was told the reason they did this was for emissions. When you let off the gas quick there is a puff of unburned fuel that goes down the tail pipe. So, they keep the engine revved up to burn that fuel.
 

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Sorry you got ripped off. I spent 5 bucks on a 3 pack of throtlle return springs. Oh well, GM doesn't use TBI anymore, so you'll never have to deal with it again.
 
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