1964 Starcraft Jet - Rebuild

[Gibbles]

Re: 1964 Starcraft Jet - Rebuild

looking good, and after doing carpet in my jet and my first impressions of the vinyl floor in my chief, vinyl is the way to go.

Carpet takes longer to dry, holds the desert dust in, hooks get stuck, and overall harder to take care of.

Vinyl, so far I love it, easy to clean up the messes I have been making, and no worries about it getting wet while I had it outside.

 

[InMotion]

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We're getting there man:thumb:

Little by little!

GA_Boater --- It's always so nice to be puttin' her back together. Good stuff, Jimbo. She's gonna be another beauty!

Agreed man! Thanks. I hope so anyways.... Shakin' it up a bit here... so ya never really know til it's all back together!

dozerII --- Hey Jim, is that cork gasket material you are using around the splash well?

Yup. I put it between the splashwell and the transom. Then run a bead of 5200 around it. Then etch, prime and paint over it. Worked well in the Jupiter.... have you had issues with cork?

Gibbles --- looking good, and after doing carpet in my jet and my first impressions of the vinyl floor in my chief, vinyl is the way to go.

Carpet takes longer to dry, holds the desert dust in, hooks get stuck, and overall harder to take care of.

Vinyl, so far I love it, easy to clean up the messes I have been making, and no worries about it getting wet while I had it outside.

Thanks Gibbs.... I agree with you. I really like the vinyl on the floor. No worries so far. This time I plywood and other wood on the floor while the glue was drying with a bunch of weight on it to help the ensure that there were no air bubbles in the floor....even though I rolled the vinyl. Sometimes you just get a rogue bubble despite best efforts.

 

[barato2]

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better a rogue bubble than a rogue wave

 

[dozerII]

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Never tried cork, should work real good, I use glazers tape from the local glass shop, totally water proof and super sticky.

 

[InMotion]

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Never tried cork, should work real good, I use glazers tape from the local glass shop, totally water proof and super sticky.

Biggest thing is that it isn't sticky.... but I had some from fixing the Jup's gas tank... actually a life time supply!! So, I as well figured if it works for a gas tank, should do the trick for the splashwell!

J.

 

[GA_Boater]

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I didn't notice the cork. I thought it was just left over trash you tossed in the S/W. That's a good use for extras. :thumb:

 

[lckstckn2smknbrls]

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Biggest thing is that it isn't sticky.... but I had some from fixing the Jup's gas tank... actually a life time supply!! So, I as well figured if it works for a gas tank, should do the trick for the splashwell!

J.

S On one side of the cork spray with adhesive.

 

[InMotion]

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S On one side of the cork spray with adhesive.

There's thinkin'!! Nice. I like that idea. Will use it for sure on the Falcon!

Thanks man!

Jim

 

[InMotion]

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Well.... been busy.... so hopefully this is starting to look a little more like a finished boat interior...



Notice the hole for the steering and the carpeted side pieces and bulk head. All just set in there for the moment. I leave about 2+" extra carpet all around each board and then dry fit everything and wrap and staple and/or glue to the back when I get the seems as best as I can.

Little bit different angle.



Also got a chunk of wiring done. LED lights and bilge to still hook up.

One thing I haven't figured out is where the heckla to put the horn. I'll snap a photo tonight for reference... hopefully you guys may have some thoughts. I am scratching my head. Does it have to be externally attached?

Have a great day fella's.

Jim

 

[jbcurt00]

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To be MOST effective (heard) the horn probably ought to be mounted topside facing forward. My Jet's was mounted to the center support spar under the closed bow, fairly far forward towards the bow. This will make it seem LOUD in the boat though, and sound like it's sounding off in a tin can...............

Under the bow it can be a low cost horn & doesn't have to be a good looking chromed trumpet/horn....

 

[jasoutside]

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I like horns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHkX6pYg3Kg

 

[barato2]

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agree 100% with JB, SUBJECT to the issue of horn taking salt water up the snoot. i ended up mounting mine on the side of center console for this reason, and to simplify wiring run.

Jas, yer an evil fellow. that video brought up the link to the one of your younguns beating on the glasser...excellent! but i think they can tell i'm screwing off when i start cackling at my desk. does their mother know the kinds of things you're teaching her kids?

 

[GA_Boater]

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agree 100% with JB, SUBJECT to the issue of horn taking salt water up the snoot. i ended up mounting mine on the side of center console for this reason, and to simplify wiring run.

Jas, yer an evil fellow. that video brought up the link to the one of your younguns beating on the glasser...excellent! but i think they can tell i'm screwing off when i start cackling at my desk. does their mother know the kinds of things you're teaching her kids?

How do you think Mrs. Outside perfected her fry pan skills? :lol::fish::lol:

 

[InMotion]

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To be MOST effective (heard) the horn probably ought to be mounted topside facing forward. My Jet's was mounted to the center support spar under the closed bow, fairly far forward towards the bow. This will make it seem LOUD in the boat though, and sound like it's sounding off in a tin can...............

Under the bow it can be a low cost horn & doesn't have to be a good looking chromed trumpet/horn....

Agreed! Under bow sounds good!

J.

 

[InMotion]

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I like horns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHkX6pYg3Kg

Size does make difference.... :facepalm:

 

[InMotion]

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agree 100% with JB, SUBJECT to the issue of horn taking salt water up the snoot. i ended up mounting mine on the side of center console for this reason, and to simplify wiring run.

Jas, yer an evil fellow. that video brought up the link to the one of your younguns beating on the glasser...excellent! but i think they can tell i'm screwing off when i start cackling at my desk. does their mother know the kinds of things you're teaching her kids?

Generally, anything up the "snoot" generally isn't that pleasant...

Ya... I chuckled at the kids going "postal" on the glasser... it's like he's creating anti glasser mini me's!

J.

 

[InMotion]

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how do you think mrs. Outside perfected her fry pan skills? :lol::fish::lol:

lol...!

 

[jbcurt00]

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If possible you might try to aim the horn at the back of your carpeted bulkhead. Might tone it down just a touch for those in the boat.

I don't underestimate the fun of a stealth install & surprise horn test on the initial family outing :faint2: <<< again, untested hyothesis, and probably ill-advised...........

 

[cpdchap]

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Hey fellas,

Picked up some 9/16 douglas fur ply for the floor and the transom. I haven't done the math fully yet, but for the transom I plan on sandwiching some 1/4" ply between two pcs of 9/16 to bring it out to 1.5" thick. I'll lather some PL Premium between the layers for a tasty little snack! 3/4" douglas fur ply weighed a ton and would be overkill for the floor in the Jet --- IMO. This will be fine as it is spanning about 25" and is fully supported with foam underneath.

Anyone remember the specs for floor rivets... I have totally forgotten.

Plan is to finish up the floatation tomorrow early am and get the floors/transom cut and ready for spar varnish.

Happy Easter Fellas!

Jim

Jim, I am snooping through the floor section of your build an d it does not look like you went marine plywood, which makes me wonder if it is necessary???? Would love to here your input.

 

[InMotion]

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Jim, I am snooping through the floor section of your build an d it does not look like you went marine plywood, which makes me wonder if it is necessary???? Would love to here your input.

General consensus is that you can go marine ply if you want/can spend the $$... but many do not. My preference, fir ply (cause that's what I have been able to find around here) and I ended up putting 4 coats of spar. Then vinyl over top glued down and wrapped up the sides. Then I PL the edges on the sides to create a sorta bathtub effect ---- all the water will drain to the bilge and shouldn't touch the ply anyways. Course last year, my cover came loose in an epic over night rain storm and the water just poured into the Jupiter. Wouldn't have been much of a problem.... except I accidentally had left the 3 position bilge switch in the "off" position vs "automatic" position. Came down to the boat... thought...mmmm it's sitting rather low and listing quite a bit. There was quite a lot of water that came out for a loooooong time when I realized my ghaff!!

So bottom line: Auraco or Fir or Marine ply are the preferences. Spar or epoxy. Vinyl, Carpet or pain/Paint with sand are the common choises --- may be others but... just can't think of any at this time! Mine is Fir with Spar and Vinyl. Carpet and Spar'd wood on the sides/seats/dash/etc.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you choose. Really can't go to far wrong with any of the choises IMO.

Jim