1987 Bluefin Sportsman 1900 remodel

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Shife

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Looks fun! The work goes by fast. Consider building risers for the console(s). I found the factory height was too low for a comfortable driving position. I raised mine by 3 inches and wish I had gone to 4 inches.

I just got done replacing all the gearcase seals in my Blue Fin and thought I'd check into iboats and see what was new. I'm just down the highway from you in Pinckney.
 
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Looks fun! The work goes by fast. Consider building risers for the console(s). I found the factory height was too low for a comfortable driving position. I raised mine by 3 inches and wish I had gone to 4 inches.

I just got done replacing all the gearcase seals in my Blue Fin and thought I'd check into iboats and see what was new. I'm just down the highway from you in Pinckney.


I am planning on doing away with the original consoles and going to a single side console design so I should get a better height all together between new seats and a new console.

I lived in Pinckney for 4 years before moving up here and got in a few rounds of golf in your backyard and on the other side of town while I was there.

I also read your thread & I personally was waiting for a little more consistant weather before ordering the epoxy (and for pool noodles to show up in stores too). Do you think you would still go for the fast hardener? My original plan was the medium but we could still get a cold snap here that would slow things down.
 

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You can get a much better deal on pool noodles if you shop online and buy in bulk.

The medium epoxy will be ok, it'll probably just take a little longer to setup.
 

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Yeah, I'd love a cheap place online for noodles. Everywhere I've seen them so far this year, online or in stores retail, they've been $3+per noodle. The 'new' MEGA-noodle has been shorter & still $4-6+per noodle. Even just 1 15'er would easily take the 12-20 I've seen priced by the case. And I need 2 sets....
 

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I asked because that's the only one I've ever heard of, and it's hit or miss. Looks like a miss right now.

Carp, WOG's is out of stock, same place, same noodles, 42noodles/case, $1per. AND AVAILABLE

Go figure...
 

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I am planning on doing away with the original consoles and going to a single side console design so I should get a better height all together between new seats and a new console.

I lived in Pinckney for 4 years before moving up here and got in a few rounds of golf in your backyard and on the other side of town while I was there.

I also read your thread & I personally was waiting for a little more consistant weather before ordering the epoxy (and for pool noodles to show up in stores too). Do you think you would still go for the fast hardener? My original plan was the medium but we could still get a cold snap here that would slow things down.

Well, if I could do it over again I would have just spent the extra on West System. I already had a gallon of it in the basement anyway. The US Composites had a heavy blush that required a lot of soap and water scrubbing to remove and the medium hardener is very slow even in high temps. You definitly get what you pay for, and epoxy is no exception. I have not used US Composites fast hardener, but I may pick some up to use with the remaining gallon of USC 635 that I have. I've used a TON of West System 105/205 epoxy over the years and have never had a problem, even in high temps. Just mix small batches. I was also displeased with the release fabric I bought from USC. It was not real coated release fabric; Just thin ripstop nylon. It trapped gasses causing bubbles in the laminate and was difficult to remove.
 

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Re: 1987 Bluefin Sportsman 1900 remodel

How about these?

http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/894-floats-mats-boats-pumps/107536.html

$1.13 each!

Google search is your bestest friend.

I remembered another member talking about them. Can't remember his name, but he's a young college student and his handle begins with a Z... haven't seen him around in a while.

Ouch, i just looked that up and its 72 bucks shipping to me! looks like im finding a ace store close to me and seeing if they will ship to store!
 

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puddle jumper, nice boat, looks like a good find! just started following your thread! When i pulled my fuel cell, i ran it through 2-3 strainers and put it into my truck!( made sure it was way over a half tank before doing so tho!) At the price of gas, im not gonna waste it on a cool fire!:D
 

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I got a case of 42 noodles for $42 plus tax, cash and carry last week at Dollar General. Watch those big suckas, they are 12 for $36, which seems good until you realize they have about a 5/8" wall thickness. They are like 4 inches in diameter with a 3 inch hole in the middle.
 

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I got a case of 42 noodles for $42 plus tax, cash and carry last week at Dollar General. Watch those big suckas, they are 12 for $36, which seems good until you realize they have about a 5/8" wall thickness. They are like 4 inches in diameter with a 3 inch hole in the middle.

Yessir! The wife picked me up a box of 42 for $42 plus tax. Im gonna grab another box just in case, next time im in town.
 
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It's time to wake this remodel back up and get her ready for the water.

I've got the gluvit in, floatation in, floor cut, vinyl delivered. Photos to come.

I need to order the epoxy for the floor and transom (possibly for the rear bench and console too?) and would like some advice on what quantity I should expect to use.

I am on the fence as to whether I will keep the Force or try to update to something newer but used in the 90-115hp range. Advice from those with experience with this would be appreciated. Do I spend the time installing an old but seemingly fine motor or do it once and upgrade 20 or so years? Reliability & longevity are my main concerns.
 

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Glad to see you get the resto thread started up again.

If you've got the $$$ for a late model DI or 4 stroke mid range motor ($4000 or so) go for it. A nice used Honda 115 back there would be sweet and provide plenty of power.

If you're going to spend a grand on a 1990 OMC V4 you might as well stick with the Force. You can do a compression and spark test on the Force while it's off the boat and learn a lot. Even if you don't keep it the tests will make it easier to sell if they show it is in decent condition. Remember, in boats one man's junk is another man's new motor

I think it depends on where you boat too. I am running 30 year old outboards on both of my boats, but I'm on a lake that is pretty small and I can get back to the launch on my trolling motor or get towed in pretty easily. I stay on top of my motors so I don't worry about them letting me sit, but I would not venture into big water with them without company. I go to Erie but I would not go out on Erie without my brother or nephew on their boats near me in case I had trouble.

Love those Blue Fin lines, my previously mentioned nephew had that same boat in the I/O configuration before his current Trophy.
 
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Glad to see you get the resto thread started up again.

If you've got the $$$ for a late model DI or 4 stroke mid range motor ($4000 or so) go for it. A nice used Honda 115 back there would be sweet and provide plenty of power.

If you're going to spend a grand on a 1990 OMC V4 you might as well stick with the Force. You can do a compression and spark test on the Force while it's off the boat and learn a lot. Even if you don't keep it the tests will make it easier to sell if they show it is in decent condition. Remember, in boats one man's junk is another man's new motor

I think it depends on where you boat too. I am running 30 year old outboards on both of my boats, but I'm on a lake that is pretty small and I can get back to the launch on my trolling motor or get towed in pretty easily. I stay on top of my motors so I don't worry about them letting me sit, but I would not venture into big water with them without company. I go to Erie but I would not go out on Erie without my brother or nephew on their boats near me in case I had trouble.

Love those Blue Fin lines, my previously mentioned nephew had that same boat in the I/O configuration before his current Trophy.

I agree, your hesitation on big water is my exact conundrum. Having a reliable kicker won't provide the backup I'd need in a worst case scenario on Saginaw Bay in late fall weather.

The motor tested great on spark & compression and judging by the well oiled cylinders, it was put to sleep properly.

It was newly installed & serviced a year prior to my purchase-(not that I believe everything I'm told) but replacing the rest of the floors and transom were beyond the PO's patience/ability level- and why, I was told, it was being sold.

I'd prefer a late 90's or newer replacement and have been keeping my ears open. I missed an opportunity on a good lead already.

If anyone could chime in on epoxy quantity, I'd like to have some guidance/reference to get it ordered.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Does anyone have a guess or experience with about how much epoxy I will need? Arcauro ply floor, transom, and part of the rear bench and one console for a 19' 87"beam...
Are we talking one gallon? More? Less?
 

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I'd bet more then 1gal, less then 2, for 2 coats each side and 4 along the edges.
 

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1 gallon of epoxy will cover approx. 150 sq. ft when used as a coating. That's enuf to give 1- 4x8 sheet of plywood 2 good coats on both sides.

If you're laminating fiberglass then it's a lot less.
 
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