'79 Venture Bass Boat - Complete Restoration

[Rickmerrill]

Enjoyed the video, you gave a nice intro to the whole boat and what your plans are for it. I know this is junk yard parts picker talk but if all else fails I was thinking of just cutting that pump as close as you dare to the hull and then grinding away the rest. Just thinking out loud.

 

[bigdirty]

Personally Id just use a bfh (big freaking hammer) and sawzall.. :lol: That would take care of it right quick... and you said you want to put a new one in anyway.. right? Honestly though, Id bet the top part separates somehow and the base is either glued, screwed, or both, to a glassed in pad of wood on the hull...

 

[GT1000000]

Thanks for makin and sharin the video! Great intro to your restoration...
Have fun with the rest of demo...

 

[sphelps]

Good video ! Sounds like ya got a good plan . Gunna be better than factory once your finished . Keep up the good work !

 

[dillonheath08]

Yes, I am going to get all new pumps. I am assuming that is my love well pump since it has an intake on the stern to allow water in. I removed what I believe to be the bilge pump. It was just held in place by a screw. The BFH will be my last resort haha. And I have been considering the saws-all. My towk is being stretched thin so I haven't really tried any kind of method yet. I am hoping to have a fair couple of days to work this weekend on removing the transom. SP, I am definitely shooting for better than factory! I checked out your MFG restore to and was blown away at your skills my friend. We'll definitely need to talk when it comes down to painting. How did you flip the hull? Mine is fairly heavy and I am assuming yours way too since it's deeper

 

[sphelps]

There are many ways you can flip it . Some build gantry's and use come alongs on each end . I did mine in my garage . Rigged a center support on the stern then made a home made fulcrum to lift the bow then just spun it over . Kinda looked like one of those pumpkin chunkers . LOL!
Or you can do like GT 1000000 and break out the beer ,brats, and stogie's . Invite your best buds over and and sometime during the festivities get em to do the ol "grab an growl" method and flip it ..http://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...-pride?&_suid=1403888556119021018908452242613 . His boat is very similar to yours and he is doing an incredible job ..
As far as painting Woodonglass is the go to guy for that . I would have been lost without his help for sure !

 

[dillonheath08]

In my brothers shop he has steel girders across the entire span of the shop. In the middle of each car bay (it has 2) is a D Ring and he has an engine hoist that I might can use to lift it up on either end. I might could use one of engine mounts that you bolt the engine to and it rotates. I think my neighbor has one. Might could bolt it through my engine mounts on the stern and rotate it that way? Just throwing ideas out there. I have been playing with the idea of a boat cradle on casters with adjustable bunks. If I used lag bolts on on the uprights holding up he bunks I could turn them straight up to paint the hull. I saw you used tractor paint. I've had some dealings with it in the past. We did a restore on an old Ford 3000 tractor a few years back. Why did you go that direction?

 

[Woodonglass]

This might be of interest...Paint Your Boat with Tractor Paint

 

[dillonheath08]

I am wanting to add I guess you would call it, glitter? Like some of the newer bass boat finishes. Don't want it to blind you, just subtle hints of it throughout the entire boats. Had any dealings with it? It's gonna be a pretty extensive paint job. The entire boat and the trailer will be painted.

I have been looking around and have found two boats that I would love to steal ideas from:

(1) I love everything about this boat's color



(2) This boat has the sparkles/glitter I mentioned but entirely too much of it in the silver.



I realize these boats are newer and have different lines than mine but I would love to incorporate their colors and design into my bass boat.

As far as equipment goes.. I have the respirators and I have access to a large compressor and a spray gun. Getting a tyvek suit is no problem. My brother's shop was made for painting so it is very well ventilated so I should be good on the paint area. I will just need to move some stuff out that I would hate to get paint all over.

 

[GT1000000]

The only way to obtain a quality metallic, metal flake or glitter paint job is to spray...the really hard part is getting it to look good and that only comes from lots of practice...the problem comes from knowing not only the equipment you are using but being familiar with the way the paint lays down...a lot of metallic type paints can very easily look splotchy or stripey if you don't get really good overlaps...Done right, though they do look fantastic...

 

[dillonheath08]

What I can't spray my brother can. He has been painting for the better part of 20 years. I am sure he can do it but if he will is another story lol. May just go with a gloss and leave out the flake. Really haven't finalized a color scheme. I am currently making my way through your restoration thread GT1M. Great looking bass boat man. I am about halfway and cannot believe how good it looks. Should be all the way through it tomorrow. Lotta pages in your thread. I am probably going to use that top boats color scheme since it has less of the flake and I like the over all colors better.

 

[sphelps]

Sounds like you need to do some chuming up to your brother . Maybe promise to cut his grass for a year or something ..
I used the tractor paint mainly because I really have never done any spray painting before and and I wanted to keep the cost down . A lot of the other guys have used it with good results . I knew it was gunna stay on the trailer while not in use . One thing I do like is it's very easy to touch up when it gets scratched .
I don't think my boat would look very vintage had I sprayed any glitter but if you can pull it off yours would look fantastic . You will have plenty of time for choosing
paint .Your spare time for a while will be full of grinding and glassing .. :lol:

 

[dillonheath08]

It'll take more than grass cutting haha. His shop has a 3 bedroom apartment on top of it he usually lives in but since he went and fell in love he never uses it. His twin, my other brother said that a guy I graduated with and his older brother will be renting it out. So with my brother no longer living there I am hoping he won't feel any need to keep anything in the shop and me and the Venture can occupy 1 of the 2 bay areas. I am gonna talk to him once my glass comes in. Should be done with the grinding so that won't be all over everything in the shop. I'll see what he says about the flakes. I would love to have them but for the sake of a good paint job I will sacrifice them in a heartbeat. How high is gel coat? I know I'm months away from paint but I usually like to have an idea of what costs how much before I dive head in.

 

[GT1000000]

Yes, if you can schmooze your bro into shooting the boat for you, with his experience level it should look down right sexy in a metallic/flake red/silver color scheme...really hope it works out!
I also hope you can score his shop for the rebuild portion...would really make for a great working environment.
Hope my build thread doesn't bore you too much...

 

[dillonheath08]

So far it is a great read. I will definitely be stealing your idea for keeping the stringers straight while the glue sets up. I've been gradually going over my build plans in my head and laying them down into an AutoCAD design program I use at school. One thing I noticed about my stringers is that not all of it will be down in that groove I am chiseling out. It gradually gets shallower in the last 4-5 inches of the groove and some of the stringer sits out of it on the hull. I've read that it'll need a spacer of some sports to keep it off of the hull so it won't rub?

 

[GT1000000]

Basically what you want to do is keep the wood of the stringers from coming in direct contact with the inner skin of the hull to prevent "hard spots"...this can be accomplished easily by using some small sections of Popsicle sticks or 1/8"-1/4" wooden dowel pieces to keep them off the bottom while the PB takes hold...
Once you get a few sections PB'd in place, you can remove the spacers and finish PB-ing and tabbing the stringers in...

 

[dillonheath08]

I am going to have to sister two pieces of 1/2" ply together to make my stringers. Mine are 127.5 inches long and as we all know ply is only 96 inches long. I have been watching a few videos on stringer fabrication and I saw a guy cut the 96 inch ply and the other pieces to length that he needed and then took two strips of ply and glued and screwed those two pieces on each side of the stringer pieces to make one and then he of course glassed over the top of that.

 

[GT1000000]

Yep that'll work...OR... you could copy what I did and laminate some thinner plywood sheets together to make longer pieces...check out my thread back around post #191...I think that's where I made the longer plywood blanks for my stringers...
Then in post # 199 I explain with a bit more detail how I did them...

 

[dillonheath08]

I'll back track to that post in a minute. I am to the part where you created the rod holders. A lotta fabrication work went into your boat. I would love to make my back fishing deck longer. It is very narrow. I am wanting to redo my dash just to modernize it. It already has gauge holes cut into it but I am going to back fill them and start over.

I am hoping to do my bilge pump and live well pumps and other various switches like this



I have got to stop dreaming of doing the detailed work :facepalm:

The plan is to get the transom cleaned out and the boat swept out and rinsed out this weekend so I can finish my grinding. I am gonna need some guidance on cutting a template for the transom. With any luck I will be cutting it out and gluing it here pretty soon. And test fitting it so I can get it perfect. My plan is still to take one sheet of 3/4" BC ply and cut out two transom pieces. And then gluing them together for the final product.

 

[dillonheath08]

Feeling accomplished this afternoon. Got that stubborn live well pump outa my boat! I may or may not have taken a hammer to it.. The transom came out in 4 large pieces With that gone I got out my Dremel with the scraper attachment and took off the remaining glue and smaller pieces of wood. I used my Dremel to sand down the back of the boat. And then I cut the transom tabbing. And cleaned the boat out.