al-Qaida Has Rebuilt, US Intel Warns.

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WillyBWright

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I guess the buck stops with Obama and Edwards.
:D:D:D

I think it's far worse than that, OMR. I think it's grown and expanded well out of the region thanks to Junior taking his eye off the ball and stroking his ego by taking on Sadaam instead of finishing the job in Afghanistan. Like they say, the war in Iraq is Cause Celeb for al-Qaeda recruiters. What was hundreds, maybe thousands, may now be hundreds of thousands. Not all are affiliated with al-Qaeda. :(

But that won't bother ol' Dubya. He's winning in his own little world dontcha know.
 

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It's nothing a nuke won't take care of.
 

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U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded....

Wonder if those are the same analysts that told Bush that Sadam had WMD's?
 

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the article linked to said:
The official and others spoke on condition of anonymity because the secret report remains classified.
Before anyone "investigates" ANYTHING, I want this so called "official" arrested for treason, and an "investigation" into leakage from our own intel agencies that would make the captain of USS Ronald Reagan ABANDON SHIP!!!
What makes anyone think we can win ANY war with such traitors running rampant within our own government?
Does power mean THAT MUCH to these monsters, as to give such aid and comfort to my enemies?!!
Give me a brrrreak man! "Give the alqueda what they want as long as hilary can be be boss"!!!
Sickening!
 

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Just as treasonous as exposing the identity of a covert CIA agent, necessitating the dissolution of an entire operation network that took years and millions to establish, Footer?
 

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Just as treasonous as exposing the identity of a covert CIA agent, necessitating the dissolution of an entire operation network that took years and millions to establish, Footer?

Precisely, Willy.
See? it aint "rocket surgery", my friend.
 

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I have no doubt that the enemy infrastructure is already in place within our own gubment to take insure our defeat-- leak after leak.... Thanks loads.
 

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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/17857.html




<Ross Feinstein, a spokesman for Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell, confirmed that the National Intelligence Estimate is due for completion this summer. He declined to discuss its contents.>


<Bush has repeatedly tried to cast the increasingly unpopular war in Iraq as part of the struggle against worldwide terrorism.
But many of the government's own counterterrorism analysts say the Iraq war has fueled anti-Western militancy and served as recruitment aid for bin Laden and like-minded Islamic extremists.>


That?s it, kill the messenger that warns the titanic it is sinking, ignore the fact that the most incompetent administration in the history of the United States, and quite possibly the world, has gotten us in this mess .If he had listened to some of his own adviser that had a clue, we would have finished the job in Afghanistan so the couldn?t regroup. Now who ever is elected President Rep or Dem is facing a draft and yes we have to finish the job this band of fools has us up to our eyeballs in.
 

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tree said:
That’s it, kill the messenger that warns the titanic it is sinking, ignore the fact that the most incompetent administration in the history blahblah blah
Yea, man... Club g'itmo, abu greib, marines eating children and raping their mommies -- all that happy horse manure.
Whatever dude. You own defeat, so you might as well take-up arms against the whitehouse... After all your aircraft hijaker MISSED!!!!
 

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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/17857.html




<Ross Feinstein, a spokesman for Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell, confirmed that the National Intelligence Estimate is due for completion this summer. He declined to discuss its contents.>


<Bush has repeatedly tried to cast the increasingly unpopular war in Iraq as part of the struggle against worldwide terrorism.
But many of the government's own counterterrorism analysts say the Iraq war has fueled anti-Western militancy and served as recruitment aid for bin Laden and like-minded Islamic extremists.>


That?s it, kill the messenger that warns the titanic it is sinking, ignore the fact that the most incompetent administration in the history of the United States, and quite possibly the world, has gotten us in this mess .If he had listened to some of his own adviser that had a clue, we would have finished the job in Afghanistan so the couldn?t regroup. Now who ever is elected President Rep or Dem is facing a draft and yes we have to finish the job this band of fools has us up to our eyeballs in.
Once again it is America's and the Presidents fault there are evil people in the world.
If you libs feel so guilty all the time, just give up all your possessions to the poor, move off to some secluded place, and live in poverty as a hermit.
 

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Once again it is America's and the Presidents fault there are evil people in the world.
If you libs feel so guilty all the time, just give up all your possessions to the poor, move off to some secluded place, and live in poverty as a hermit.

a-hem!...well now I'm sure they would if they all didnt already have the duty of assisting America's enemys and critics. spoiled children are great complainers...yeah...
 

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Libs never do anything except put their hand out for more welfare and food stamps.

Global Warming- I don't see them bicycling or using sailboats.

The Poor- Why don't they self-tax themselves and feed everyone?

Gay Marriage- Well, I guess they do seem to be partaking in that one.

Iraq- Why don't they just go fight alongside the enemy directly? Seems kind of girly-mannish to just write newspaper articles and hide behind their womens skirts a la Sheehan, Rosie, Couric, Pelosi, etc. I guess they have Harry Reid but he's kind of like a woman himself.
 

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:D:D:D

I think it's far worse than that, OMR. I think it's grown and expanded well out of the region thanks to Junior taking his eye off the ball and stroking his ego by taking on Sadaam instead of finishing the job in Afghanistan.

Ya know Willy, you're obviously a skilled mechanic that must employ logic in yer day to day work. Why do you suspend this same logic when ya ponder world events? If all living things were elimitated in Afganistan 9/12/2001 NOTHING WOULD BE DIFFERENT TODAY.

We are in a world wide cornflict that started in ernest with the collapse of the Shah in 1979, (helped significantly by a Liberal Democrat President I assume you greatly admire as a Liberal Democrat). Our very skilled and formitable advisaries corntrol significant oil resources that gives them the money to fight us. They have a 1500 year old militant ideology that uses 7th Century tactics some incorrectly refer to affectionately as the "Religion o' Peace". The modern internet gives them a huge lodgistics advantage to acquire knowledge n' communicate to fight a very effective war against us.

Liberals help them immensely by back bitting our brave leadership that is trying to protect America against a really formadable adversary. They know the NYT will let them know all our secret tactics we have used against them. They know the MSM will repeat their bombings of innocents and (enhanced photo ops), over and over again to demoralize the American experts on all aspects of homosexuality n' victimhood. They know Democrats will get real excited for five minutes when it is fashionable after a massive attack, and vote to take us to war. They also know that Democrats always help them by undercutting the very war they voted to prosecute, just like they did in the 1960s.

Our enemies know many Liberals realy luv John Kerry so much that he nearly became President. The same John Kerry that repeated false Soviet Propaganda before the Senate in 1971 to help our Communist enemies win in 1975. BTW: the same John Kerry's pretty face is in the War museum in Hanoi. When our enemies know they can count on Liberals and Democrats to cut our throats we are in real trouble.


Like they say, the war in Iraq is Cause Celeb for al-Qaeda recruiters. What was hundreds, maybe thousands, may now be hundreds of thousands. Not all are affiliated with al-Qaeda. :(

Hmmmmmm, if we were actually united, (all of us), and showed them non politically correct steel or lead or TNT everytime they blinked I would still assume the followers of the Religion o' Peace would draw from their 1.2 Billion followers, (especially those born after 1979 who have learned to hate the "Great Satan" and long to strap on a bomb and take out soft targets). Please study the history of War on this planet Willy, the enemy gaining strength after first blood is certianly not a new development, unless ya live under a rock or maybe ya just wanna help the bad guys. Do you ever cornsider human history: Willy? (Kinda like having a manual before gettin' out the wrenches: ya know). That said, these people think they get 72 virgins when we send them to Allah after slaudering innocents: Willy!! What part of this don't you understand? If Bernard Lewis is correct in his extimates we need to arrange a meeting with Allah of somewhere between 100 and 400 million people, 'cause they are not gonna change jus' 'cause we have a President Obama or Edwards: Willy. BTW, Is Liberalism a mental disorder?

But that won't bother ol' Dubya. He's winning in his own little world dontcha know.

He has incredible courage and I respect him for holding firm against the Pols you support Willy. This is not likely gonna have a happy ending, IMHO. Respectfully, JR
 

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I wonder what the DUKE would say about dingy Harry and tom dashel. :rolleyes:
 

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Quote 12footer


After all your aircraft hijaker MISSED!!!!

No 12, not correct on that one, that can be traced back to George the first, here is why.

Osama and this dude named Sheik Abdullah Azzam, founded this gang called Maktab al-Khidamat (MAK) translated that means ?Offices of Services?) in 1984,I,ll just shorten that to (MAK) for simplicity?s sake. ?MAKwere the main recruiters in the hooduntil Osama and Asszm had a falleg out sometime at the end of the rumble with the Soviets in Afghanistan.

Seems tha Azzam wanted to on stay focused on Afghanistan, Osama wanted to take his message global. Osama ran into this dude from Egypt that had the handle of Sayyid Qutb, Sayyids main sidekick before Osama made the scene was Maulana Sayed Abdul A?la Maudoodi this dude was born in India of all places, he moved to Pakistan in 1947his main gig was leader of this group of thugs called The Muslim Brotherhood.

al-Qaeda was starting to shape up in 1988 , but then something unfortunate happened ,some lowdown, dastardly, low life, assassinated ?Sheik Abdullah Azzam?. Osama was so distraught that he split from ?MAK? and formed his own jihadist movement in 1989.

That was the same year that the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan. Osama was emboldened by the fact that he had some success in influencing the withdrawal, of one of the two main superpowers of the world, said to his gang, man this is cool, lets see if we can get the U.S. troops off of ?all? Arab and Muslim countries and just maybe, I can be made the head leader of a bigger and better hood.

In 1989 Osama went on a sabbatical to his homeland, Saudi Arabia, his main beef was the presence of U.S. and western military in his home hood. He bitched, and carried on, so much that the Royals, and some of his own family, got him kicked out of his homeland. He was still bummed when he landed in Pakistan in 1991,still pissed and stirring sxxx up, they soon got tired of his crap, so a year later they gave him the boot. Hello Sudan, he lands in Sudan, with bags full of money. The ruling National Islamic Front and its leader, Hassan al-Turabi, who had established strict Islamic rule, welcomed him ,but don?t forget the loot.


Learning his lessons after getting the boot out of his home hood, having his own family ragging on him, even Pakistan showing him the door. Enter a new low profile Osama he quietly started establishing training camps, and most of al-Qaeda?s operations were relocated there. They claim responsibility for attacks on our troops in Yemen, Somalia, and we know for sure they were responsible for the Riyadh attack in Saudi Arabia.

Sudan got tired of constant BS they from the U.S., and more likely as a result of pressure from their Muslim neighbor Saudi Arabia, once again Osama gets the boot. Here it is ?1996, Osama and his gang are looking for some place to crash, and lo and behold what appears on the horizon, Afghanistan. They had some cool dudes there called the ?Taliban, there leader was this Dude called Mullah Muhammad Omer.Omar said comeon down, O.. ?By the way, don?t forget to bring a couple of pallets of cash. By the end of the 1990s, al-Qaeda had trained a couple of hundred thousand extremists in both Sudan and Afghanistan.


Look at these dates 12 , explain to me how anybody that I voted for could possibly be, as you put it responsible for any 911 attacks?Getting carried away with the rhetoric.






1989 was when Osama split from ?MAK? and formed his own jihadist movement. That was the year President H.W. Bush went in to office.

I am not implying that President H.W. Bush, had anything to do with Osamas wanting to blow us up, but wonder how you can come to the conclusion that I, or any body I know, or voted for, condones terrorist attacks?

Here I?ll give you a straw you can grasp, Clinton was President in 1996,when Osama go the boot from Sudan, from pressure from America, and Saudi Arabia, Gotta be Clinton's fault.

 

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Tree offers up a nice history of Osamas travels, but then leaves out the most important detail- the reason he left Sudan.

The Sudanese offered to extradite Osama but Clinton turned down the offer! Instead, Clinton requested that Sudan kick Osama out, which is how Osama ended up in Afghanistan.

9/11 was very much Clintons fault.

Instead of doing anything to stop Osama, Clinton was too worried about selling national secrets to China and getting blow jobs.

Typical liberal twist... "puke"....
 

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.....bring back Macarthyism from the 50's. That worked......and at the time most of the status quo, from what they were told, thought is was...well probably a good thing and....well probably needed. The government knew what it was doing....probably,.....at least thats what they said.
I think probably half of those people were commies. The others (Americans) were collateral damage...that was their problem, you got to break a few eggs when you're doing an omelette.
 
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