"Master Bait'R" Restore Thread

[sevanseriesta]

Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

I was able to get the boat off the trailer, I sure wish I would have been less of a chicken cause it really was pretty easy. Also it does that I did appear to join the club a couple weeks ago and did not even know it. I cut a through the hull and did not even know it, its was not quite as deep as I thought. This cut, the horizontal one, is what went through if you look close you can even see the cement floor

This is what it looks like underneath

This is originally how I was going to make my cradle

decided to go this route instead

Boat on the cradle, and as you can see the inside strakes don't sit on the 2x6's I am going to try to figure out exactly how to fill the gap

 

[sevanseriesta]

Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

Im in the process now of building something to lift off the cap I will take some pics of that when it is done. Hopefully I will know more of what going with the stringers after the cap is off.

 

[glenn property of pam]

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Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

glad to see you are making progress. a little adjustment will have it sitting right. dont worry about the slit that can be fixed from the inside so no real harm done.

 

[sevanseriesta]

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Its to short so I am not sure exactly how I am going to fix it. Was thinging about just sliding 2 1x6's in there to tighten the gap.

 

[sevanseriesta]

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Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

what do you guys think about bracing, is it enough?

 

[jbcurt00]

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If you can, I'd try to slightly change the angle for more contact when you add the 1X6 to that middle set of bunks, then it looks pretty good to me. Same for the bunk at the bow, slide it back a bit as well.........

 

[sevanseriesta]

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I've actually decided to add quite a bit more bracing after reading all the different threads everyone has me pretty worried. The only problem is it will pretty much be set in its position and I won't be able to roll it around the garage anymore.

 

[sevanseriesta]

Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

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So last night I started trying to get the cap off, what a project. everyone makes it sound so easy. PFFT.

Well I was able to get the front off but the back is not coming off. I believe that the splashwell has been secured with either an epoxy or some other resin from the inside. It appears that if I am going to get the back off, I am going to have to cut the splash well or cut the inside with hopes that I can reach everywhere. I am not 100% on this yet. Cause I really, really do not want to cut the splashwell. You can see in the pics below what I'm talking about.

 

[glenn property of pam]

Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

cutting the splash well is the easy way. there are 2 ways to do it and that depends on if you are replacing the transom. if you think the transom is ok then you will need 6" to repair the cut (3" either side of the cut min for feathering) put masking tape on the inside of the splashwell and draw a line at least 3" up from the curve then draw the line to the transom try not to end in the corner as thats hard to repair and its not covered by the alluminum strip of the transom. the other way is to cut near the transom in the curved area close to the transom side of the splashwell the boat side will be feathered then glassed into the new transom and as its at the bottom its not a real hard fix especially as by this point you will be getting a good idea of how to work with fiberglass if you go this way then add 1/2" to the transom height in the splash well area as thats what you will loss due to the cap fiberglass being removed.

the harder way is to cut a strip of the top of the transom and try to free it from the transom which can be done but you are still going to have to repair the strip that was cut out or cut the transom skin from the inside and try to get the fiberglass to come off the transom wood so you can get to it later this way the cap is untouched but it might be difficult to get the fiberglass cut all the way around. vibrating cutter would realy be the tool to use if you plan to go this way. (this is the way i would try first if the transom is being replaced as a uncut cap is the best way)

theres no harm in trying the harder ways first because if it doesnt work you will be cutting that part away when you go the easy way.

 

[sevanseriesta]

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Hey Glenn thanks, but I am having some trouble figuring out exactly where you mean to cut. I tried to get it to come loose by cutting away what I think is a resin between the fiberglass and transom, this took a long time to accomplish pretty much nothing. Here is a pic

Then here are some pics of the splash well maybe you can help me understand exactly where I should cut. I think your right after going through most of the project and learning how to fiberglass repairing it should not be a problem. However I want it to look as factory as possible. So with that said here are some pics.

 

[sevanseriesta]

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Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

Is this where I should cut?

 

[jbcurt00]

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Is the transom soft, or wood mulch?

Mine was wood mulch, and running a multi-tool & sawzall from the inside up into the transom wood in this area:

From the INSIDE up & under the splashwell at the transom, trim left & right thru the inner glass skin & 1" +/- , right up & as tight as you can TOO the bottom side of the splashwell.

Now you've gotten the inner side sliced thru just like you did from the exterior. Both left & right across the boat... The remaining area between your 2 cuts needs to be cut. Think of it as joining the 2 parallel cuts w/ a diagonal thru cut.. W/ a sawzall (take care to not cut anything you don't want too: The outer skin of any of these areas), W/ an angle grinder, or a multi-tool (what I used)..

Does that make sense?

Like this:

 

[glenn property of pam]

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Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

wow thats not a easy splashwell to cut free. go with jb's idea to start if that doesnt work cut a window



then drive paint scrappers and thin pieces of metal down between the transom and the splashwell. if that doesnt get it then cut a bigger window



then try again driving paint scrappers between the spashwell and transom. the cut out piece will not be re-used if you have to go this way you will just make a new piece later.

lets hope for real rotten wood so jb's way gets it free

 

[sevanseriesta]

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Thanks again curt, Unfortunately the Transom is as solid as a rock no, no mulch at all. The whole back looks solid. I will try to continue cutting like you said and see if I can finally get through this thing. But if it is glued the transom like they said on the skeeter thread that was posted a week ago I could be in trouble. I have an angle grinder but not the osculating tool.

 

[sevanseriesta]

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Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

thanks glenn I will be back in a couple hours well see what route i have to go

 

[jbcurt00]

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Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

It isn't going to be as easy as it would seem, mine was wood mulch except the area between the splashwell & exterior transom skin. Hard as a rock, smoked a few sawzall blades, smelled like I was starting a fire w/ the grinder blade, and finally tried the multitool & it worked much better. But it came out in slivers......

You can also try cutting just a 1/4 or 1/2 of the top edge lip of the splashwell off. Hopefully the transom metal cap or edge trim will cover it so it won't be such a visible repair. Then use the grinder or saw vertically down into the plywood. Again it's measured in small victories. So you may end up making multiple passes into the transom & diagonally trying to connect them....

 

[sevanseriesta]

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It is 6.5" from the top to the bottom of the splashwell, I think I am going to have to cut the window. I'm gonna try the small one but I almost bet I am going to have to do the big window.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Re: How would you recommend starting stringer Replacement

IF forced to cut into the splashwell, I'd still probably try to cut just 1/2 the top edge off & plunge an 8" sawzall blade down in from the top......

 

[sevanseriesta]

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good news bad news.

Caps Off But I had to cut a lot more then I wanted to.... I will post pics later going to get some dinner now.

 

[sevanseriesta]

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Ok, so last night was a bad night, got yelled at for hours because fiberglass dust was everywhere all over the garage. So did not get anything accomplished after getting the cap cut out finally. So here is the damage I am hoping that I did not make to much work for myself but I felt I had not choice and now I know why it would not come off.

You can see here That Originally cut out the top 1 1/2" strip that got me no where, so then I cut the window out. And still this got me no where for what ever reason I still could not get the back to budge so I went inside to try and cut the inside and my angle grinder was not big enough. So then I tried use my saw zaw to cut the bottom of the splashwell from the inside and that still would not release it. So then I had to cut the outside the window quite a bit more then I wanted.

This is why it would not release, the splashwell was tabbed all the way up the side. I am not sure how they would have been able to do this. I am a pretty small guy and there is no way in hell I would have been able to get my hand up there or even a tool for that matter.