1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

[jasoutside]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Well, I got one set that is interesting, stay tuned on that. The other set I got I was very unhappy with the fella so I'll leave his biz off the open forum.

I'm about to order another set from this guy...

http://www.shabestari.com/MainPage.html

He has done great work for me in the past.

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

thanks there jas, just sent him an email

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

thanks there jas, just sent him an email

He's been good to work with, very flexible, good pricing and pretty quick too

 

[Pmccraney]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

DozerII - i do believe we have the color there. i even like the split color on the cowling. Could go with the silver/gray on everything then the navy blue for the top half to blend in with the boat color. thanks for stopping by......

+1 - that was my thought exactly... Not only is it factory - but it will go great with your color scheme....

P.S. were you able to spray anymore last night with the revised mix - set-up? Curious on how it went?

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

pretty quick too

he would have to be to keep up with you....... lighting McJas

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

thanks for the drive by there PM. i think it will go nicely as well. we will hopefully be finding out here this week if all goes well with the painting again. could not spray yesterday due rain droplets again

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Ok, so i tried the 1 cup with 50/50 MS and Acetone, and i do believe it probably should have been 2 cups paint. it still did not flow as nice and i think i still have the setup wrong. my gauge may be fubar at the gun cuz it seems like the pressure sure is high when it should be low. after i sprayed the first cup i went back and read the formula and it did say 2 cups paint :facepalm: so i tried that and just went with a 1/2 cup acetone. the shine was much better but it is almost like there is somehting i did not sand off under it. it has a lot of arc type lines in the paint when i know i had it smooth to the touch so i am lost on that. those pieces are done right now as far as i am concerned. Hopefully some rubbing compound and polish will help it out. i have a sign i will be practicing on with a 2 cup paint and 3/4 cup acetone mix or some variation there of but in smaller amounts so when i paint the hull again, i hope to have gotten better at it.

live and learn, if nothing else, this has been something i have been wanting to learn to do and i am doing just that. besides i think i am on coat number 10....lol

 

[Decker83]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Hey rrumba,
Sorry to see your having problems with the paint... The rough places may be due to the acetone flashing to quick and your blowing dry piant before it hits the boat. I think that is why WOG said to mix 50/50 with the acetone and MS. Just a thought.
Keep on trying you wil get it down.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Yeah, just like rain, humidity can cause problems too.... 10 coats. Wow, that should leave you plenty to cut & buff when it's good & cured!

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

thanks for the stop by decker and jbc..... you are probably right about that. I know WOG wouldn't steer me wrong that's why i think i am missing something with the setup. the other thing it said was not to thin more than 5% with MS. I am getting another gauge for right at the gun and see if i have that part to high at the gun cuz it sure seems like it is coming out with more pressure than it should be. it has to be my setup. i think the 50/50 MS and acetone will work nicely if i can ever get the gun right. It does seem like the 50/50 after it tacked looked better than the other but the other had more shine to it. will keep on playing and hopefully the gauge will take care of the problem.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

I'm a bit perplexed with your issues. If The mix is correct, the Gun is set correct, Pressure is set correct, it should be flowing correctly. Gloss should be good. Not being there makes it hard to diagnose exactly. Pics might help some. Video with sound could be helpful as well. What kind of filter are you using @ the gun and @ the compressor?

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

If it's worth anything...

I have figured out that through my spray gun I can get a pretty nice finish about 1/3 the time. The other half, runs/drips/orange peel/water and the like.

I have also figured out that through the Rusto Pro (big size) rattle can I can get the spray correct 100% of the time. Why? Well they mixed it so it's perfect. My finish might be good like 80% of the time. Why? Well, I still have to hold/move the can so yah, still runs/drips every now and then

Oh well, still looks pretty good @ a quarter mile:facepalm:

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

I'm a bit perplexed with your issues. If The mix is correct, the Gun is set correct, Pressure is set correct, it should be flowing correctly. Gloss should be good. Not being there makes it hard to diagnose exactly. Pics might help some. Video with sound could be helpful as well. What kind of filter are you using @ the gun and @ the compressor?

Yeah, WOG so am i, but i really think the pressure at the gun is really not correct, although it says 35 it seems like i am blasting the paint on it. going to get a new regulator for the gun end from northern tools and see if that makes a diff in how it feels coming out of the gun. I will get some pics of the way it looks now and try to get some close ups to see what i am talking about, may even try the video as well. I believe it has to be the setup.

when you turn the paint supply knob out 3 turns is that 3 full turns, or 3 half turns as you cannot get to the knob be able to make a full turn. i figured it was 3 full so i did 6 half turns out from fully closed.

appreciate the help the WOG

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Yeah, i would agree there jas, but they do not have the colors i want either and by golly (my beaver cleaver imitation) i am a gunna figure out my issue and get better at it. It just may take some time over the winter but i am not going to wait that long before i can splash her. so i will do my best on the hull and next year worry about the better quality if i cannot get it figured out. Just more sanding is all.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Yah, I have just come to terms that I am not a pro painter so my paint work is certainly not pro. It's an art for sure. I'm good with it

I also like being able to pick up the colors right at the hardware store any time I like to fix my issues.

I also like pizza.

Just sayen.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Post up some pics of the gun, regulator and filter set up. I would be interested in seeing how it's all rigged up.

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

ok, so from a distance it does not look that bad i guess. But here are some pics with close ups. it is hard to see the the swirls/arcs that i was talking about. here we go

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

more pics

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

Ok, so here is the way i have the gun setup. an inline filter/water seperator, pressure regulator valve (more on that below) then swivel at the gun.

Here is video, not all that good.....

Ok, so about the gun setup. I changed out regulators and using the one shown i cannot set it for 40 at the gun with the trigger pulled. i pull the trigger and the pressure goes to zero, let it go and it goes up to full pressure. Cannot adjust it worth a darn either, just a little bump and it is either max or nothing. So i will have to switch it out with a better one i guess. this one is was from Lowes and i guess the cheap one is cheap in all regards.

Is this the wrong type of regulator to use? what would be the right one? I did notice that with this one on if i set the pressure at the compressor to read 35-40 at the gun it did not seem to be a strong as when i was spraying. it felt more like what i expected and not so hard coming out. if that makes sense.

Any suggestions on the regulator and where to get the right one for the job, or changes to my setup for that matter would be a great help.

 

[Decker83]

Re: 1975 Starcraft 140 Evinrude OB -- Restoration IN PROGRESS FINALLY

I sure wish I knew more about spray painting so I could help out here. The last pic looks like some kind of contamination like oil or water.
Hopefully WOG will be able to get you straight on the problem. I know you should not be having this much of a problem.
Keep your spirits up. This can all become a beautiful thing.