Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

[Hoosmatroos]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Great work JM. Greetings from the other side of the North Sea (Netherlands)

 

[jmmacky]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Great work JM. Greetings from the other side of the North Sea (Netherlands)

Thanks Hoosmatroos. Good to have you along.

I've been putting all my time into the seating and boat interior for the last few days. I have got the rear bench seat bases fabricated, installed, filleted and tabbed. Filleted with PB (resin, cabosil/fumed silica and chopped strands).

I've also cut and filleted the sections supporting the console areas as well as some of the bow seating base.

The white stuff in the front of the boat there is fairing filler (resin, cabosil/fumed silica and glass bubbles) which I've put down there to funnel water towards the centre drain point you can see in that front bulkhead. All the lockers (under seats) have drainage points which I will install small plugs into that can be taken out to allow drainage of any water that gets in there. Unlike the original design there is no under deck drainage to lessen the chance of water getting to stringers/below deck bulkheads/flotation foam/ fuel tank etc (although fuel tank compartment drains to bilge through another removable plug if necessary). I used the leftover fairing filler to fill around the wood at the consoles so that after I've sanded this down and gel coated it, it will hopefully be a seamless link between cap and interior without an obvious plywood shaped edge.

All the wood in the rear bench seats has been glassed with csm on both sides for waterproofing and added strength. But this has been taking ages, using loads of materials and costing more money. I've seen other threads where the seat plywood hasn't been coated with csm. So to save time and money the bow seating wood hasn't been coated with csm on both sides before installation. It will get tabbed in using csm though and everything will get 2 coats of gelcoat to protect it.

I've also started making my pedestal seats but I will post those pictures all together in one post when they are finished so I can explain what I did.

 

[jmmacky]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

I forgot to say...in another thread (sorry I can't remember who it was) they dipped their filleting spoon in acetone. I tried this for my seating fillets and it worked great. So thanks whoever that was!

 

[GT1000000]

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Somehow, someway I have completely missed your amazing restoration! And to think you started it a little while before mine...

You have done a superior job on this Bayliner!

I am humbled by your craftmanship...your work exemplifies a true passion for doing things the right way...

Every bit is 1000 times better than anything the original manufacturer could have done...the boat, the trailer, and the soon to be, modified and re-styled interior...WOW!!!!

I really like the innovative solution to "extending" the barn door...

I just finished reading through this thread and I will definitely be staying on board to watch the upcoming finish to this awesome labor of love!

Best Regards,
GT1M

 

[GWPSR]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Yeah, what GT said! This thing will be a boat before you know it.

 

[jmmacky]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Somehow, someway I have completely missed your amazing restoration! And to think you started it a little while before mine...

You have done a superior job on this Bayliner!

I am humbled by your craftmanship...your work exemplifies a true passion for doing things the right way...

Every bit is 1000 times better than anything the original manufacturer could have done...the boat, the trailer, and the soon to be, modified and re-styled interior...WOW!!!!

I really like the innovative solution to "extending" the barn door...

I just finished reading through this thread and I will definitely be staying on board to watch the upcoming finish to this awesome labor of love!

Best Regards,
GT1M

Wow, thanks GT1M, I really appreciate that. I admit I have been watching your meticulous rebuild and I'm sorry I have never posted on it...but there are usually so many replies I can never think of anything to add!

Yeah, what GT said! This thing will be a boat before you know it.

Thanks very much GWP. I ordered some double ended christmas tree fasteners as you suggested yesterday.

 

[jmmacky]

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Didn't get as much done as I would like to have this weekend. Ran out of poly resin on Friday and my new supplies weren't due for delivery until today. But I got a few other things done which didn't involve glassing. The bow seating area is now cut and I have cleaned up the edges with a belt sander.

All of the bow seating bases and console support has been tabbed in today following the resin delivery. I've also fitted the new splashwell drainage tubes through the transom (sealed with sikaflex). Hopefully tomorrow I'm going to fit the bow seat base similar to how I did the deck, finish off the pedestal seats and make the back supports for the rear benches.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Your woodworking skills appear to be outstanding along with your glassing skills as well.

 

[jmmacky]

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Your woodworking skills appear to be outstanding along with your glassing skills as well.

Thanks Wood!

Today I got the bow seat base installed. I used waterproof glue along the top of the seat base supports and then weighted it down with some rocks. Then I used PB (chopped strands, cabosil and resin) to fill around the edge and around the insides of all the compartments. This was really awkward trying to get my head with the mask on into each compartment (without dislodging the rocks) and seeing to smooth all the filled edges! Next jobs is to tab it in.

It's gone ridiculously cold in the UK for the time of year so I've had to get the heaters out again!

I also rear bench seat back supports. They need to be a bit curved as the gunwale of the boat has a mild curve to it in this area. My original plan was to use to pieces of 4mm exterior ply cut to shape, glue in the middle and then clamp/screw in place while the glue sets to maintain the curve. (They need to come back out afterwards for upholstery). But I didn't have enough 4mm ply for both sides and not wanting to have to go buy some more I used 9mm exterior ply for the other side, screwed/clamped it in place and the glassed the inside with csm which I am hoping will hold it in the correct shape once dry.

Glued side:

Glassed side:

I have glued and ss screwed some wood batons on the seat base behind the back supports to attach the bottom of them to. The bench seat bases are just resting in place, also on batons which will be put on ss hinges later. The small part of the rear seats right at the stern need to be completely removable to make access to electronics, battery, hydraulics etc easier so I've glued ply onto the bottom of these which fit snugly around the rear bulkheads there to hold them in place. The screws pointing up are just to clamp the wood in place while the glue dries and will be removed later. I think once all the upholstery is done as well they will be held pretty firmly but if not I can always add some catches later to hold them in place.

 

[jmmacky]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

A bit of an update. I finished making the pedestal seats today, apart from gelcoating them and upholstery. I owe the inspiration to make them and design to Redstrat. See his boat resto in the link below where I first saw the seats:

http://forums.iboats.com/boat-resto...pair/73-checkmate-mx-16-resto-mod-591365.html

He gave me permission to copy his design and gave a few tips so thanks Redstrat! I made up the dimensions from looking at other pedestal seats online and measuring the chairs in the kitchen (+making allowances for foam etc). First I cut the wood and tacked the pieces together with galvanised nails.

I used 9mm exterior grade ply for the back and base and 4mm for the sides as I needed to be able to bend them later. I then cut a piece of wood to the right length and jammed it between the sides; forcing them apart and producing a nice curve to the arms. With this in place I filled the edges with PB (chopped strands, resin and cabosil).

I used filler (resin, cabosil and glass bubbles) to fill any areas that needed it to allow the glass sheets to lie better. I then 'tabbed' the outside edges with csm and then covered the rest of the wood on the outsides with csm. Once this had all cured I was able to cover the inside with one big piece of my stitch mat/combi mat (similar to 1708) cut so there was no folded bits, just overlapping bits.

When all this was dry I sanded the surfaces with my random orbital sander and cleaned up the edges with a belt sander.

I'm really happy with the way these have turned out. They feel really strong and are a lot lot cheaper than all the decent looking pedestal seats that I can find for sale in chandleries/Ebay!

 

[jmmacky]

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It wouldn't let me post enough images in the last box...just wanted to show what they look like on a pedestal!

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Cool! Can't wait to see the finished products.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Very nice Fabrication. Not sure if you've seen this yet but, this might be of some interest as well...
"Building and Upholstering a Bench Seat"

 

[GT1000000]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Very, very nice!

 

[jmmacky]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Very nice Fabrication. Not sure if you've seen this yet but, this might be of some interest as well...
"Building and Upholstering a Bench Seat"

Thanks Wood, I did read through your thread there when I was researching the building of my seats and it is really useful. But I'm afraid I've decided not to do my own upholstery. I think it would take me ages to get the stitching etc right and work it all out. I really want to get the boat finished in time for the Spring sun so I'm going to get the seats upholstered while I sort out the rest of the rigging, dash, console etc. I know it's cheating and I've seen you and others do some great upholstery work.

Also I've taken a bit of a break from work to get this finished...and I need to start earning some money again soon or I won't be able to afford the fuel for the mighty 2-stroke o/b...and fuel is expensive in the UK!

Very, very nice!

Thanks GT!

 

[Woodonglass]

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JMM, I totally understand, both about the Upholstery AND the Fuel Costs! Just wanted to make sure you were aware!!! Somehow though, I kinda think that a guy that could fabricate those seats.....Well he could prolly find his way around a Sewing machine and some vinyl PRETTTTYYYYY darn easy and make some Darn nice seats to boot!!!!! Guess we'll never know now!!!!!! I hate it when Work gets in the way

 

[jmmacky]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

JMM, I totally understand, both about the Upholstery AND the Fuel Costs! Just wanted to make sure you were aware!!! Somehow though, I kinda think that a guy that could fabricate those seats.....Well he could prolly find his way around a Sewing machine and some vinyl PRETTTTYYYYY darn easy and make some Darn nice seats to boot!!!!! Guess we'll never know now!!!!!! I hate it when Work gets in the way

Haha thanks Wood. You aren't going to talk me into that easily though!

 

[Hoosmatroos]

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Very nice JM. I also think you can do great work with the sewing machine Don't let us down now

Work is fun but it takes to much spare time.

 

[jmmacky]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Very nice JM. I also think you can do great work with the sewing machine Don't let us down now

Work is fun but it takes to much spare time.

Thanks Hoosmatroos...but I'm not giving in to your peer pressure either!

 

[jmmacky]

Re: Bayliner Capri unintentional restoration project

Bit more to report on the boat. A few posts back I described a couple of methods I was trying to get the back rests for the rear bench seats to fit the curve of the cap...well neither method worked particularly well so I'm just going to use 5mm ply cut to size now and then bent into shape after upholstery.

I've replaced the side panels today. These are not the same as what was in there originally as I wanted a more sleek looking inside of the boat. They are just aesthetic really to cover the inner surface of the hull and cap. Although they do support the inner edge of the cap as well and the throttle will be mounted on the starboard side panel. I screwed them through the inner lip of the cap using ss screws. I countersunk the hole first so that I could bury the screw head and fill afterwards. This will then get sanded and gelcoated. All the edges got filled with PB to make smooth transitions and at the bottom before getting tabbed in with csm.

The throttle was already wired up so I cut a strip out of the side panel to thread the cables through. I then cut a strip to fit back into this section with a hole drilled at one end to match the other side of the one where I had taken it out. This is what the cables run through. The filled in section is held in place with PB. Both side panels curve slightly to match the shape of the hull. They also function to hide all cables behind them and if needs be I can add a hatch type cover in later for access.

The bow originally followed the same shape as the front of the boat with a kind of triangular front cushion. But I wanted a straight piece across the bow so each side could be used as a kind of sun deck/lying down seat. There will be 2 cushions on either side which will hinge up and the one front cushion which will also hinge. This front cushion will be over the anchor locker, which I needed to be big enough for the anchor etc. This design left me with a triangular gap at the front. I've made a section to fill this gap that has a hole in the middle for the anchor rope to go through so the front cushion cam be down for people to sit on while still using the anchor. This way the anchor can be stored either in the locker or on the bow roller with the chain going down through the hole in the triangular section (although I will need another roller to do this ideally). First I shaped the bow section and glassed both sides as it will often be wet. I cut a hole in the front to fit a small section of PVC pipe in to line the hole the anchor rope/chain will run through. This is set in place with PB. I decided to make my own cup holders to go on either side of this (ready made cup holders on Ebay are surprisingly expensive).

I used some guttering type pipe I had lying around and cut to the right length. I then cut a circle of ply to fit in the bottom of each bit. I attached this to the underside of the bow section using PB and then tabbed on. The inside of the cup holders I also used PB to get a smooth transition from wood to pipe and also to round off the edges in the bottom.

Wood cut to shape and glassed:

Piping cut and wood inserts to fit:

Outside of pipes was roughed up with sander to promote adhesion. PB'd and tabbed in place underneath: